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90 110 130 Defender County Chat specifically relating to Coil sprung 90 110 130 Defender and County including V8 and TDi200/300 TD5 and the new Ford engined land rovers.

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Old 29th September 2008, 04:39 AM
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Tough Dog Foam Cell Damper - broke today...

Any ideas guys....

Have been off-roading today - nothing too extreme but quite technical.

Vehicle is a 110DC TD5 with King Spring Springs on each corner and two Foam Cell dampers on each corner of the rear axle, arranged in a V formation with the spring running up the centre of the V.

Today whilst playing I broke one of the dampers (right hand side rear axle, front damper - i.e. the one on the original mounts) The top eye is OK and the damper is fine. The problem is the stud that pokes through the bottom bushes and bolts through the axle bracket has sheared, just above the thread.

I think, looking at the way the damper is, is that the damage was done with the spring fully compressed - the damper is also compressed rather than extended.

All other 3 Foam Cells on the rear appear to be fine.

Rear springs are King Spring KLRR-05
Rear Dampers are Tough Dog - FC41398
Trailing arms, rear prop, bump stops etc are all standard (on the rear)

Any ideas?


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Old 29th September 2008, 09:36 AM
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Are the lower shock bushes the poly type ?? If so change to rubber and don't do then up too tight.

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Old 29th September 2008, 11:17 AM
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Easy answer Jon,thier CRAP!!.I had two fronts loose oil and one back one snap and weak puppy blamed my vehicle saying toyota,nissan drivers love them and won't use anything else.No warranty or exchange so billys for eight years without a hitch and now koni's. Pat
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Old 29th September 2008, 11:23 AM
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Easy answer Jon,thier CRAP!!.I had two fronts loose oil and one back one snap and weak puppy blamed my vehicle saying toyota,nissan drivers love them and won't use anything else.No warranty or exchange so billys for eight years without a hitch and now koni's. Pat

Have to agree, you get what you pay for with dampners.

Hey Leeds any pictures of the duel shock setup?
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Old 29th September 2008, 08:45 PM
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Are the lower shock bushes the poly type ?? If so change to rubber and don't do then up too tight.

John D - Defender 110 2.4
The car is sat on guenuine LR bushes throughout.
Nuts tightened just enough to give a few threads sticking out through the lock-nut.
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Old 29th September 2008, 08:47 PM
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Have to agree, you get what you pay for with dampners.

Hey Leeds any pictures of the duel shock setup?
I dont think Leeds' 110 is dual dampered - i'll sort piccies out of mine though.
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Old 29th September 2008, 08:54 PM
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Ive broken the stud on Tough dogs, Bilstein, Stockers, Pedders, Rancho... blah blah blah. Using rubber bushes done up loose. They just break when you load em up- it is only a 10mm pin under a fair old angle??? maybe eye bottom mount is less likely to bend and break.

Weld them back on and with judicious use of Mr Arc or Mr MIG...

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Old 1st October 2008, 05:06 AM
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Must admit I had thought of welding them back up if the warranty avenue proves fruitless.
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Old 1st October 2008, 09:15 AM
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wrap a wet rag around the can if you are worried about heating it too much but I reckon that unless you park 140A of arc on the stud for 5 minutes you still wont get the oil and can as hot as driving corrugations for a day?

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Old 1st October 2008, 10:12 AM
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wrap a wet rag around the can if you are worried about heating it too much but I reckon that unless you park 140A of arc on the stud for 5 minutes you still wont get the oil and can as hot as driving corrugations for a day?

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Yep have to aggree there ive tig'd em back on before not a drama and yep i used the wet rag method just in case tho mig or stick will do its just i have the tig so i use it dont have to grind afterwards
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