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90 110 130 Defender County Chat specifically relating to Coil sprung 90 110 130 Defender and County including V8 and TDi200/300 TD5 and the new Ford engined land rovers.

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Old 11th February 2010, 05:55 AM
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I wont say these are the best but its what Iam running at the moment and from the different types of terrain including alot of mud they have performed really well.

Federal Couragia M/T Federal Tyres Australia - Couragia M/T you will also find this tyre in there 4wd action tyre test.Ive got 285/75 16 on our defender with sunny rims 16x8 with zero offset and they only just just stick out past the flares.I have noticed a little rubbing on front radius arms but thats it, I put 130 springs in the front when I got the old girl and have no winch so have not sagged so plenty of clearence.With the zero offset do not rub on rear springs/mount.But may have to do something about the flares as the car gets sprayed with mud when out playing and cannot see out passenger windows

There a little noisey now on the highway but all M/T are, so far they have worn well only 8k old but have/will rotate every 5k when I do a service including spare.But I will be happy if i get 50k out of the set ,but for $250 a tyre who cares.

Maxxis also do a couple of good M/T, I had bighorns on my old cruiser and they were great in the mud also great value.
Heres a pic of how far they stick out
I agree, the couragia federal muds seem like an awesome tyre!!
A mate is running them in 285/75/16 and they perform very well in the mud!!
they have a very open tread pattern so the mud clears out of them pretty well
when you look at the track they leave in the mud you would almost mistake them for the simex tread pattern

Personly these would probably be my first choice for the mud after the simex's, silverson's, simply because they are cheap and handle fine on the road
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Old 11th February 2010, 10:41 AM
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I am happy with the KM2, 255/85 on TX1 rims. They are good on the road and excellent off road. Will throw mud up the side and re-entering the vehicle you have caked door handles. Havent been stuck yet, but it is relatively early. Will try again this weekend.
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Old 11th February 2010, 10:50 AM
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Just to throw another opinion in l run COOPER STT 235/85R16 (Factory size) on Boost alloys.

Can not fault them. I do a fair it of highway driving. As well as a rock and mud. I use them as a general all-rounder. Have had great wear out of them. Not cheap though.


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Old 11th February 2010, 11:00 AM
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OK this one ought to get some comments flying. I need a set of proper traction tyres - sufficient to cope with mud, clay, wet grass etc. Sand is less of a concern - happy to air down.

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I want the max. track I can get, without modifying the guards, to run ideally 285/75 or fallback 265/75

Again, any views appreciated.
Well - the Best mud tyres (which would fit without modifications) would be a set of small 16" tractor tyres. If that is too aggressive, then the next best would be tyres like boggers, simex, silverstone etc... How legal they are is another matter. I believe in some states you cannot legally fit cross-ply tyres to a vehicle which came with radials. (or the rules may simply be that you cannot go down in speed rating).

So - do you want the "Best" tyre? Or the best legal tyre???

As for sizes and offset. I have a set of 255/85-16 on +15mm (extra offset over std.) disco rims, and a set of 285/75-16 on +30mm (extra offset over std.) disco rims. The 285's rub on articulation - where the flare attached to the body.
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Old 11th February 2010, 11:21 AM
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Well - the Best mud tyres (which would fit without modifications) would be a set of small 16" tractor tyres. .
these are the best for mud (white morrel clay country) and mud only had them on our spray rigs not cheep either but good for the mud hated sand and the hard stuff. tend to cook on black top any thing over 60km.we did go back to 33/12.50-15 on the bfg m/t when started to get more farm land and more km on the road travel.but some of the best tyres i have used in the mud are the good old 750/16 dunlop mud diggers but good luck finding them now old s3 loved these
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Old 11th February 2010, 11:38 AM
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Ive got the Big horn 255/85 16, good grip wet and dry, good in sand but have not had the opportunity to test them in mud. loud worbling sound at 90+ km/h. Mate of mine races with them and loves them, good grip and exellent life very little chipping etc unlike the BFG he used to use.
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Ive got the Big horn 255/85 16, good grip wet and dry, good in sand but have not had the opportunity to test them in mud. loud worbling sound at 90+ km/h. Mate of mine races with them and loves them, good grip and exellent life very little chipping etc unlike the BFG he used to use.
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Couldn't agree more

We've had the same size on our deefer for 12 months now and they are going brilliantly. Awesome on road and rocky trails, good on sand (haven't even aired them down ) and are good enough for us in mud. I haven't had to use the winch in anger yet, so they must do alright
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This question is done TO death....

Seriously. Everyone has a different opinion on what a mud terrain tire even is.

If you want serious traction off road.....get a tractor tire like Isuzurover said....anything else is a compromise. Even Simex ET's or the equivalent.....It's always going to be a compromise.

I've run Et's before and found them nowhere near as bad on road as many said they were....but it's me and not you driving the car. I've driven on super swampers when others said they suck on road....not too bad as far as I'm concerned.

It's all personal opinion and driving style and this subject is done to death.

Sorry for the rant and not trying to have a go at anyone .....get out there and try a few.....take a test drive.....whatever.....but it's way to personal a choice as far as I'm concerned.
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This question is done TO death....

Seriously. Everyone has a different opinion on what a mud terrain tire even is.

If you want serious traction off road.....get a tractor tire like Isuzurover said....anything else is a compromise. Even Simex ET's or the equivalent.....It's always going to be a compromise.

I've run Et's before and found them nowhere near as bad on road as many said they were....but it's me and not you driving the car. I've driven on super swampers when others said they suck on road....not too bad as far as I'm concerned.

It's all personal opinion and driving style and this subject is done to death.

Sorry for the rant and not trying to have a go at anyone .....get out there and try a few.....take a test drive.....whatever.....but it's way to personal a choice as far as I'm concerned.

Now now now....go and have a Bex and a good lay down.

You are correct in some of the things you are saying but it is people's opinions that were asked for, and that is what the users have given.

No one has to take the advice.

You are also correct in saying that tyres are a compromise....but so is a Defender as well as many other things in life.
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I went micky's mtz's down right awesome.
I've been told alot of the comp boys are going them over the claws becuase of the sideways traction.
plus they don't howl as much as a more agressive tyre.
but when it comes down to it how many$$$$$$$$$$ do you have to play with how long do you want them to last.

Dad has Bighorns on the 130, good. but rather the micky's

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