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Thread: Disco 3/4 Automatic Transmission FAQ - 6 Speed

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    No real downside to waiting.

    I am a real fan of changing the oil; also the change to a metal pan is a good idea, but in Canada, not as easy to actually get done as in Australia.

    I am a little puzzled as to how your independent determined the tranny oil was black unless they undid one of the plugs as there is no dipstick like a "normal" automatic transmission. The oil probably should be black and I assumed it smelled OK - that is my test of trouble or not. The real education is when the plastic pan is pulled and one examines the metal filing goo clinging to the two magnets. On mine, it was sort of a thick paste on both magnets, but fortunately, no chunks.

    Nothing bad should happen in then next 5,000 km as I assume that will happen in less than six months so three more months or so on the factory oil should be no big deal. If it is, then may your tranny fail quickly please.

    When I did my oil change at about 130,000 km, (five years), the fuel mileage improved about 2 litres/100 km on my 4.4 litre V8 petrol engine.

    As such, I will get the cost of the oil change back within a year in saved fuel costs. I also got improved acceleration and the shifting remained good - it was smooth before I might add; hence my surprise when the fuel economy improved as all seemed well.

    The link below is to a number of files I have collected re the ZF6HP26X tranny that is on our 3's.

    DISCO3.CO.UK Photo Gallery - ZF 6HP26 Automatic Transmission in LR3

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    An interesting dilemma you have there. If the transmission is not slipping the oil change may delay the inevitable and you may not have problems in the future. The alternative would be to get the dealer to do the work and then you would have a documented transmission problem inside the warranty period that you could use in the event that a transmission replacement was needed in the future outside the warranty period.
    Or you could buy an extended warranty and hope it would cover the cost of the transmission replacement should it be necessary.

    FWIW I would probably go to the dealer with a sample of the oil and ask them what their approach to fixing the problem would be and document their response. Unless the box is slipping they probably will not even investigate further than saying that the transmission is sealed for life......

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    So the good news is......

    Hey dk,

    Took my truck back to LR again.....I'd had an interesting couple of weeks...

    I'm one of the poor souls who had a naughty turbo on their 3.0L TD.....my car got split and the turbo was replaced.


    Shortly afterwards I started having all sorts of erroneous faults that seemed to be of an electrical nature:
    • A sharp cracking noise (like amplified static) coming through the car speakers...regardless of what was turned on or otherwise.
    • My fuel guage stopped working for a few minutes.
    • Headlights flickering in sympathy with the cracking noise.
    • And finally an engine that cranked but wouldn't start.
    I'd booked the car into LR to get these things and the transmission issue looked at (again). I assumed that the electrical issues were caused by something not being reconnected properly. By this stage I assumed the transmission had a mechanical issue.

    It was the morning I was due to take the car in that it wouldn't start. It finally did after quite a few attempts.

    Got a call from LR.....my battery was 'flat'....well sort of....didn't have the capacity to run all the 'stuff' properly, thus causing all the weird issues.

    They'd also had a few bulletins regarding software patches that were needed to fix sound system static, a few other issues......and you guessed it....transmission issues!!!

    The long and the short....new battery fitted (under warranty), patches downloaded ....and it's freakin awesome......

    No more glitches and the transmission and engine are running like they were when new!

    Get your car into LR mate......

    Cheers,

    Kev.

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    Jaguar Gearbox Service Kit

    Does this fit our gearboxes?? ZF 6 Speed Automatic Ford Aston Martin & Jaguar ZF6HP26 Transmission Service kit | eBay

    If so would seem to be a good buy.

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    According to the LR D4 brochure, the 2.7 is fitted with a ZF HP26.

    The 3.0 are listed as ZF HP28.

    Regards,

    Les.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garrycol View Post
    Does this fit our gearboxes?? ZF 6 Speed Automatic Ford Aston Martin & Jaguar ZF6HP26 Transmission Service kit | eBay

    If so would seem to be a good buy.

    Garry
    HiGary,
    Unfortunately to fit that pl;astic pan (IE it is the original one), you need to lift the engine off its mounts etc etc, hence the change to seperate filter and steel pan which only necessitates the undoing of the rear trans mount and lifyting trans uo against the floorpan in order to remove and refit. Saves about half a day!!!
    Steel pan kit and filter with gasket etc are up to $440 but can be found for less by the looks of it.

    JC
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    Quote Originally Posted by outasight View Post
    Thanks Les, may have to have a chat to my supplier then about prices, Or start getting customers to buy off ebay themselves and get me to fit them then!

    JC

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    Thanks JC - misread the original ebay post to be the steel sump - second link by Les is still a good buy though. Interesting the seller is recommending a change at 60,000km instead of Landrovers 240,000km and indicates even ZF says a max of 100,000km - I wonder where Landrover gets their service interval from. Even talks about different oils - more information in an ebay ad than you get out of your dealer - maybe they need to have a read of the ad.

    My car is coming up to 60,000 and I just intend to pull the drain plug and let as much oil as I can out and then refill (maybe 5 litres) to freshen the oil and at 96,000km get a full service and steel pan and get a megaflush done.

    After that change 5 litres or so of oli every 24,000km and another full service and megaflush in another 96,000km.

    Garry
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    Think I will have to order that kit when I get home..I see the oil also in 1 ltr bottles, didn't see a price tho..did I miss it, or not?

    The plastic piece he says to cut, does it matter where its cut, or is it criticle for the next filter element fit?


    Many thanks

    Cheers Ean

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