D3 18" off road tyres? - Page 3

bigmac · #21 (**permalink**) 28th February 2008, 08:48 PM

You must check that they are both load rated and speed rated or else
the insurance mobs could wipe you if you have an accident.
I know when I was looking last year that the only ones that were rated for
both were the General Grabbers that I got.
Hope that has changed by now though as it would be good to have a bigger
choice.

Bigmac

stevo68 · #22 (**permalink**) 28th February 2008, 09:39 PM

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I have a $420 question. I've decided on buying 4 of the Goodyear Wrangler Silent Armours (265 X 60 x 18 - best quote I have is around $420 each), and have been told by two tyre places that I dont need to change my spare (factory goodyear 255/60/18) as its within the 15mm tolerance (so long as I dont keep it on for more than a few months), BUT 2 other tyre places have said my disco will fall apart immediately if I use the spare with the 255 on. If I do get a flat I would obviously change ASAP (granted that it may be a few hundred k's), but what do you think - is there a risk or are these tyre places really full of crap?

Mate all I know is at one stage as I only had 4 of the 18's and the 19 was a spare until I could get the other 18. Was told same diameter yada yada, should be okay...NOT. Of course I ripped one of the 18's and had to put on the 19, TC kept kicking in on way home when I went around bends. As soon as I was able to put the 18 back on, prob went away.

Regards

Stevo

Jamo · #23 (**permalink**) 29th February 2008, 11:50 AM

The load rating's more important than the speed rating.

WA law allows you to use a lower speed rating provided the tyres are used well within the applicable rating.

muppo · #24 (**permalink**) 2nd March 2008, 11:00 AM

I'm in this same position with new tyre choice. I'm going away for three weeks this Saturday so the new tyres will be fitted this week but I've been told by my tyre bloke to wait untill Tuesday as his reps are getting back to him about more brand choices.
These are what I've found to fit so far,
255/60/18 GGabbers AT2 passenger
265/60/18 Yokohama G012 ATS passenger. I had the G011 A/T on a Pajero a few years back and think that they are one of the best alround tyres I've had but they have a poor wear rate.
265/60/18 Goodyear Silent Armour passenger (they claim they are the strongest A/T on the market) I have these on my work Hilux and are impressed but only done a few thousand on them.
265/60/18LT BFG A/T not listed anywhere but I'm told they exist and are available.
265/60/18LT Cooper ATR again not listed anywhere but are available. I had these tyres on my last car a Landcruiser 100 V8 and the rear tyres got tore to shreads, whole lugs missing and was told by the Coopers rep when I wanted them replaced that I should have fitted ST's because of the weight of the car, and with Vic High Country terrain the ATR can't handle it. They where 265/70/17LT so I bought some 265/75/16LT STC's and rims and never had a problem again. The D3 weighs more than a Sahara V8 so ATRs will be destroyed even quicker. I would never buy them again for offroad but they where good road tyres.

The 265/60/18 tyre size only increases the speedo reading by 1.3klms. I'll let you all know what I find out and finally which one I choose.

Disco3 · #25 (**permalink**) 5th March 2008, 08:29 AM

Been told the Goodyear Silent Armour have the wrong load rating so cant be used on a disco- have been told that the Cooper HT Plus are the go and are one of the longest lasting tyres on the market. Anyone else used cooper HT plus?

Scouse · #26 (**permalink**) 5th March 2008, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Disco3

have been told by two tyre places that I dont need to change my spare (factory goodyear 255/60/18) as its within the 15mm tolerance (so long as I dont keep it on for more than a few months), BUT 2 other tyre places have said my disco will fall apart immediately if I use the spare with the 255 on. If I do get a flat I would obviously change ASAP (granted that it may be a few hundred k's), but what do you think - is there a risk or are these tyre places really full of crap?

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevo68

Was told same diameter yada yada, should be okay...NOT. Of course I ripped one of the 18's and had to put on the 19, TC kept kicking in on way home when I went around bends. As soon as I was able to put the 18 back on, prob went away.

Running one odd size tyre can cause all sorts of dramas on the D3. We chased strange wheel speed faults for ages on one then realised one of the tyres was a different profile to the other 3.

BigJon · #27 (**permalink**) 5th March 2008, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Scouse

Running one odd size tyre can cause all sorts of dramas on the D3. We chased strange wheel speed faults for ages on one then realised one of the tyres was a different profile to the other 3.

You can have all sorts of dramas with the air suspension too, when you try to reset it... ask how I know

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stevo68 · #28 (**permalink**) 5th March 2008, 04:26 PM

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You can have all sorts of dramas with the air suspension too, when you try to reset it... ask how I know

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I'm asking

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Regards

Stevo

D3Jon · #29 (**permalink**) 11th March 2008, 04:34 PM

If your looking for a road biased tyre for your D3 (not quite what this thread is about, but hey...) then check out my post regarding the new Conti's available in 255/60 R18 : New choice in 18" D3 road biased tyres available

Jon

muppo · #30 (**permalink**) 20th March 2008, 02:08 PM

Well the Grabber's got the nod in the end for a few reasons, and those being that no other tyre had the 112h load and speed rating and the same size 255/60/18. The BFG's turned out to be Long Trails not A/Ts, Yokos under rated and way over priced. Goodyear's are expensive and under rated too. Coopers are perfect besides size but my past dramas have lead me away from them.

Now for the good and the bad about the Grabbers.
Good first, their handling in the dry is top notch, as for the wet well it doesn't rain in the sth east anymore it seems so I can't say yet how good they are.
The have a much stiffer side wall than the stock wranglers so the ride fells much more controlled and stable. The air suspension seems to work better less wallow and pitch, I read else where that the 19" wheels give a better ride too so maybe the stiffer sidewalls have something to do with it.
Only done 3k so far but wear looks good, the shoulders still look new.

Now the bad, Noise noise noise, what can I say. I read multiple times about how quiet they are but really they are noisey with a drown and rumble at low speeds but at highway speed there is little noise. If I didn't do much off roading I'd buy the Cooper ATR's instead they are very quiet. I think there is more steering rack shake but this could be a dodgy rack or just because they are are heavier and stronger tyres than the stock wranglers.

In the end I'll probably look at a different tyre and rim combo next time and put on a quiet tyre for everyday use.

I also found as with my Pajero you need to check the 4 wheel alignment more often or the inside of the tyres will scrub out.

Prices
Yokos $430
Silent Armour $430
Coopers $380
BFG $N/A
Grabbers $335

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