are they 18 inch and what did they cost????

Redfender, yes they are 18 inches (285/60/18). Paid $395 each including fitting, balancing, etc. This was the price I was quoted at the 4WD show. At that price I hope to get some decent mileage from them.

Drove to Wedge and back this weekend and they went very well. Dropped the pressure to around 20psi for the run up the beach. Was like a highway and probably didn't really need to drop pressures, but there were some sections near Narrow Neck that were fairly chewed out. The tyres went very well through the sloppy parts, didn't want to duck and dive with ruts that criss-crossed the direction we were heading.

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Cameron
If in doubt, throttle out
MY08 D3 TDV6 SE
1986 RR - project vehicle
BF XR6T
Suzi LTR450
Husky TE510

I am stoked to hear that the LTZ's fit and are going well, they are the only tyre that seemed to go close to fitting and that i could access up here but at $420 (yes $420 thanksverymuch ) i need to be sure that they wont rub .
Brick is there any chance you could give me some sort of distance between the tyre and front suspension if you reach over top of tyre and try to slide your hand between with the standard 255/60 18 i can just pass my fingers though ~ 10-15mm so the extra 30mm width of the LTZ's has me worried

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Aaron

Aaron,

It is close, between 5 and 10mm. On having a look at the inside of the tyre it shows no signs of rubbing as yet including after around 60kms of driving at 20psi on sand and limestone cap rock. Have done around 1000kms so far since fitting and have not had an issue other then the weight/fuel economy trade off mentioned in an earlier post.

Cheers

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Cameron
If in doubt, throttle out
MY08 D3 TDV6 SE
1986 RR - project vehicle
BF XR6T
Suzi LTR450
Husky TE510

Gents

I have been running Cooper ST 265/70 x 17 on my diesel S model, with air suspension. These tyres are 803mm in diameter - compared to the 763mm diameter of your standard tyre (255/60 x 18) - and compared to 799mm for a 285/60x18.

I completed a 7000km trip with a full load (5 pax and roof rack) from Brisbane to Uluru and back via the Simpson in Sept this year, without problems, but....

The 265/70 will occasionally rub the inside of the rear guard under compression eg a load on board and some largish bumps at speed. If you look inside the rear wheel arches you will see that there is a step/projection into the arch that reduces clearance by about 50mm - and the larger tyres may contact this. I haven't experienced any tyre damage as a result of the contact, contact apppears fairly light but there is body sheet metal under the plastic wheelarch. Something to watch for.

PS: the car drove very well on gravel with the larger tyres, and we were the only vehicle to complete the trip without a flat though there were some chips out of the rears.

Do these come in a size other than 285/60/18 as this size would be illegal here in Queensland unfortunately.

They look to be way oversize to me.
Brick, check the plastic bulge in the front of the wheel arch, that's where they will rub.

IMO and experience I would never, never ever trust a Cooper tyre.

Cooper and Mickey Thompson are owned in the USA by the same co-op. Yet manufacture at different factories / locations in the US.

Several Mickey T guys I have spoken to tell me they wont even 'talk' to the Cooper factory guys...


A good friend owns a 4wd specialist tyre store in Adelaide...
He will NOT sell Cooper tyres - But is the largest seller of Mickey T in SA and at one stage was National Seller.... This is by choice, he makes less margin on a MickeyT than any other brand he sells... He can make more on the Coopers.... He wont...


Would any of you trust your $60k+ vehicle to retreads? Coopers arent much better....


No-one in our entire 4wd club runs Coopers with good reason.. Several punctures, blow outs and a few delamination incidents put paid to that.

Cooper tyres are pushed as a 'premier' brand in Australia... IN the USA they are regarded as rubbish....

The Australian importer sells them as 'bread and butter' and refers to Mickey Thompson tyres as their "Premium" line....


BTW - There is a FC-II that will fit on listed... I will chase the details Monday and report back...

FC-II with hard use has given me 80,000km and being removed as 5mm tread is not enough for offroad use...


I understand the factory tyres arent any chop offroad, but Coopers isnt a step forwards.... Sideways or backwards maybe.... I wouldnt put my faith in them nor trust my vehicle, my life, or that of my family to Coopers.

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Have been up and down Africa (literally) on Cooper STTs on previous car - no problems at all. The Cooper LTZs get nothing but good reviews in the US (I'm yet to come across a bad review), Middle East and here - on and off-road. The Cooper STs are good in some conditions, but not the type you get in Australia - for that they made the Cooper STCs (same tread pattern, different compound).

Several people in the US use Cooper LTZs on their L322 Range Rovers, Sports, D3s, new Landcruisers etc. It isn't seen as a bad make - a bit cheaper than comparable Nitto tyres, but not much difference in the tyre itself.

Just a quick comment on Coopers, (not wishing to start a lengthy discussion).
I have used three sets exclusively on the Tdi 300 over ten years (ST) with a lot of very harsh treatment. Now running ST's on the D3 with nearly 30,000km on them, also a lot of van towing. To date they are wearing perfectly and would have at least 75% tread left. Always found them to be a great wearing tyre.