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    New Airbags....Compressor next to Fail

    The 01 D2 had a case of the occasional saggy butt at the most in opportune times, until I opened my wallet and bought some bags from Airbag Man at Brendale (Brisbane ).

    An hour or so's work and the problem was fixed.
    No more saggy butt.

    Except the compressor was sounding like one of those Supacrap $20.00 dollar units after ingesting Teewah beach sand.
    The Disco then started to suffer from slow saggy butt.

    After trying to ignore the sound.......and the cost of a new compressor, I decided to pull the compressor apart when it died.

    Quite an easy job (see pics), and I found a simple unit with few moving parts totally immersed in rusty water.
    The final show stopper was one of the rusted brush springs had failed.(pic no 6)
    Therefore, no power to the motor.
    For nine years of operation there was very little wear evident on the components.....except for rust damage.
    Maybe Wabco's built in obsolescence by failing to seal the thing correctly, and Land Rover mounting it under a 4WD contributed to its demise?

    The Disco has not been off the bitumen, or been near a flood for three years.(unfortunately)
    (It is the cook's shopping trolley at the moment)
    But, when opened, water ran out of the motor...........
    Yes. The inlet filtration is intact.

    After a clean up, greased bearings, and a brush spring off an old Jap starter motor, plus silicon sealing, it was reassembled and now runs like a Land Rover compressor should, albeit with slightly noisy bearings (no pun intended).

    I would have preferred to change the bearings to bring the motor back to 90%, but Wabco appear to have assembled it as a throw away unit.......which is great for Wabco.
    Maybe an "expert" has already done a complete dis assembly.
    If so......................

    How can I remove the crank end bearing from the motor?
    The commutator end bearing and connecting rod bearing are a simple press fit. But the crank end bearing????????

    The compressor works fine for the moment. Just a little noisy.
    If the bearings could be replaced, it should give years of trouble free service.
    If not, when it fails, I will adapt a generic 12volt compressor to the existing valve block assembly... A reasonably simple and inexpensive job.
    I have researched using an ARB low capacity compressor (used for their diff lockers) which will fit in the existing space under the vehicle, or inside, out of the elements..........or almost any 12volt compressor could be adapted.
    If the Landrover valve block is retained, overpressure, filtration, and electrics is not an issue.
    Plus. With a little ingenuity, one has a compressor for tyre inflation as a bonus.

    I apologize if I have unintentionally plagiarized another's work on repairing D2 compressors.
    Please feel free to contribute, discuss,or criticize on how to save a buck with a Wabco compressor.












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    Great work, great result and great photos.

    I stripped my old one down and diagnosed a worn piston ring. Wabco dont sell spare parts (I tried the Australian Agent and Direct from the US) but in the process I did get this stuff I posted earlier that some may find useful.

    http://www.aulro.com/afvb/discovery-...tml#post999487

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    Great help, thanks.

    I had a compressor die at about 80k km and have had a similar thought on using an aftermarket one next time it goes if I still have the car. Should'nt be too difficult as the smarts are in the sensors and the valve block. Keep us informed, please.
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    Hi Everyone
    I had the same fault with my compressor "Full of Water"
    Please note it's good practice to check your airbags also "i found water in here also" remove them then flip them upside down.
    Anyway the water seems to find it's way in through the Filter breather which is located behind the left rear stop light.
    I re-located this inside the cabin so that now no it's not possible for water on condensation to enter anymore.
    After re-furbishing my compressor i also made sure no water was left in the hoses by blowing some high pressure air inside.
    Hopefully now i should have less maintenance free on the compressor for water problems.
    Cheers
    Vince

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    yep pulled apart a couple and same fault. full of rusty water and brush spring corroded and broken off.
    also though of using after market compressor. most likely the ARB one that will be hooked up to diff lock.

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    So is there any reccomended maintenance procedure for these compressors ?

    I did a couple of floor pan deep water crossings, and a drive along the river, and the compressor must have been submerged ... or at least partly submerged.

    What say you all ?
    Kev..
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    Hi Kev
    The compressor is sealed pretty well "or at least it looks good enough"
    The only critical spot to look out for is where the power cables enter the motor
    it has a rubber grommet but i've noticed the wires move so i put some silicone in this area to prevent water getting in
    Like i mentioned earlier check and re-locate the air inlet filter
    mine was completelly soaked with water
    Cheers
    Vince

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    Comp

    Behind your tail light is the air filter For the compressor

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    I have not taken mine apart like all you brave people so still a little uncertain of the way they work but all compressors will have condensation form in their outlet so no real surprise if there is some water in your airsprings but not sure if that would explain what you find in the crank case of the compressors on display here or not.

    My compressor is not making any funny noises but is working poorly taking an eternity to lift to off road hight. Is it just the piston ring or is there some other valve system failing? From your experience will pulling it apart get it pumping again? It also spent a fair amount of time under water up cape york but as said no funny noises just working overtime. And yes my airsprings are newish.

    The airfilter behind the rear light is dodgy mine shows signs of water getting in and dust getting past.

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    the ones i have taken apart that look like the one above are beyond putting back together. i would hazzard a guess that most ppls failed compressors are not primarily due to overworking from leaking bags, but from overworking a rusted out pump that is just waiting for an excuse to die, i.e leaking airbag. the construction of the pump to me looks like it would not die due to overuse if it was in good nick.

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