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Old 10th March 2010, 06:42 PM
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You've got everything to gain and nothing to lose by going to court.
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You mention it's 5 points and a fine...doesn't that leave you with 7 points? Why not cough up the $$$ and move on? Life ain't fair all the time. Just need to be ever vigilant!
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Old 10th March 2010, 06:59 PM
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I'm guessing he's on his P's Hoges.

Sorry to hear mate but it is tough luck. Ignorence is no excuse for breaking the law. I've been in the same situation as well mate. I was visiting my Aunty and turned left into a road which is a no turn left between 4 and 6pm. My clock said 3:55pm. The cops clock said 4:01pm. $390 or so later and I was very angry.

I believe you could easily keep on driving if you can prove you need a car for work purposes. I know people who have kept it after drink driving at .1 (on their P's). Heck this guy got caught twice for drink driving in 18 months. On that note I think the above is absolutely terrible.

He still drink drives to this day.
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Old 10th March 2010, 07:06 PM
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Sorry to hear that !

My 19 yr old son went thru the same thing last year ... didn't know it was a school zone, driving in an unfamiliar area (Central Coast), photographed and fine mailed out .... and THEN, AGAIN 2 weeks later ... by the time the first fine was recieved, the second offence had already been done

No leniency what so ever ... P plater. School Zone (with a not very noticeable 40 speed sign). The nice lady on the phone at the office of state revenue (or who ever it was) told me how to , and we did this ...

Ignore the first infrigmrent notice. It expires 3 weeks after the issue date. They then send another reminder ... that took 2 months to turn up! Ignored that one as well, and the recieved the default notice ... another 6 weeks. Then I filled out the form to say it wasn't me driving, it was my son in my car (car's rego'd in my name) .... took nearly another 2 months for the fine to be re-issued in his name .... recieved and ignored .... 2nd notice issued .... waited until the 11th hour (3 weeks after date of issue), paid the fine/s, and he lost his licenec for 3 months ... but in the meantime, he'd got his green P's.

Is the sign clear & visbile ? Take photo's if it's not. There's SO MUCH roadside signage we have to keep an eye on it starts to become too much to take in ... any other signage around the 40/School Zone Sign ?? Does it have flashing lights ?? (Ones here in Nelson Bay do). Was it flashing ??

... and what did you do with that JEEP you were driving ? Swapped the plates to a Land Rover !!!! ... that's another techicality.

You can run them in circles pretty easily if you need too to create some extra time ... or, employ some legal counsel to represent you based on your need to retain your licene. We have an acquaintance here who's an absolute **** pot ... she's been driving WELL over the limit for years ... she finally got busted .... and the judge let her off !! FFS !!!! ... She needed to get to work and take/pickup the kids from school.

All that said, School Zones are usually a Go To Jail, Go Directly To Jail event ... and, the state Government's broke, and the Police are in revenue collection mode.

Good luck with it mate!

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As has already been indicated Tony...ignorance is no excuse in the eyes of the judicial system. Your choices are simple..

1. Pay the fine;
2. Take it to court;
3. Write a letter to the IPB but DO NOT try and make an issue of the fact he wrote down Jeep...they will just send the fine back.
4. Just ignore and eventually your licence is cancelled, rego cancelled etc. (bad move that but many do make that move).

As was evidenced in another similar thread regarding a P plate not being visible. You get caught, the above are your choices.

On Saturday morning, I saw and followed a female P plate driver for about 4 kilometres on the Princes Highway...the entire way she was speeding, changing lanes without indicating (from lane 3 to lane 1 in one movement) but what was worse, she was texting the entire time. I finally caught up with her at a red light and tore her a new arsehole...she gave me the finger and drove off...still texting. Never a cop when you need one
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Old 10th March 2010, 07:16 PM
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You can run them in circles pretty easily if you need too to create some extra time ...
Thus avoiding responsibility??

It's everyone's else fault these days...we do something wrong and try to apportion if not all, at least some of the blame, to someone or something else. Or try to find a glitch or a technicality...even for a speeding blister. We then go "woohoo I beat the system" but no lesson is learnt. Sad really.
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Yeah, mate I was travelling to Singleton today on private business, I was going the "back" way to Greta through Camp Rd leading onto Mansfield St, when a car going the other way "flashed" me, on reaching the 60 zone there where two cop cars parked in Tuckers Lane checking traffic, a green one and a red one. I drive for a living and I have never seen them there before. this was about 10am today.
On the way back from Singleton at about 11.30am I passed the red one near Branxton. So there must have been some revenue raising campaign in the name of "Road safety" going on in your area today. I know the school zone near Branxton. Good luck with whatever you decide to do!!
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As others have said, take it to court, admit you made a mistake, and you recognise the need for the school zones, and point out this is your first offence, I believe you can apply for exceptional circumstances if you genuinely need a vehicle, but since it was a school zone, it might be a tough ask.

Good luck with it.

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In NSW if you plead guilty in court, the magistrate has NO discretion with respect to the points - no matter what the magistrate's finding (even not guilty) you still loose your points.

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Thus avoiding responsibility??

It's everyone's else fault these days...we do something wrong and try to apportion if not all, at least some of the blame, to someone or something else. Or try to find a glitch or a technicality...even for a speeding blister. We then go "woohoo I beat the system" but no lesson is learnt. Sad really.
No, no responsibility avoided. Never tried to blame someone else. Dumb mistake. We all make them. New driver. Dumb mistake. He's a good kid (better than alot I know). We just played the system to gain some extra time to get him to his green P plates, which got him 3months instead of 6. He kept his job ... so he could make his car repayments and pay board ... and pay his fines ... and I only had to drive him to work for 3 months instead of 6 .... he works night shift.

He paid the fines, and was disqualified for driving for 3 months ... and the pizzling he got from me for 3 months of being driven to work at 12 midnight and picked up at 6am more than made up for the 3 months saved ... good lesson learned . He didn't beat the system, and accepted the fact that he'd broken the law. No arguement there from him.

Kev..
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