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Old 11th March 2010, 06:56 PM
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Sorry to say I have abosolutely zero sympathy for you.

Speeding and without due care and attention by the sound of it, in a school zone.

Genius. Oh, and on your P's aswell, so probably no driving experience most likely.

Man up and take the rightly given punishment.

Maybe you will learn a lesson from this.

Just to add I generally dont really care about people driving quickly in suitable places, in suitable conditions but in no way was yours either by the sound of it. Look at the amount of killed and injured P plate heros in the news every week.
If you did in fact read the original post I'm sure you would have seen that he was doing 59 in what he honestly though was a 60 zone.

As dangerous as it was to have missed the school zone signs, he though he was doing the right thing (infact, even with someone tailgating him he resisted the urge to speed up). Hardly sounds like a 'P plate hero'

Now by all means chastise him about not paying attention and how dangerous that can be (although I have a sneaking suspicion it unfortunately happens to the best of us).

Whilst I agree "I didn't see it" is no excuse, I believe the OP's claim of "it was an honest mistake that won't happen again" doesn't deserve your condescending response.

A bit quick to tar all P platers with the same brush.

Perhaps you've been watching too much Today Tonight up in your ivory tower.
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Old 11th March 2010, 07:07 PM
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Statistics for School Zones and juvenile road accidents

Here is the latest analysis:

The RTA has reviewed approximately one quarter of NSW school zones. This analysis shows that road crash casualties – fatalities and injuries - involving school age pedestrians between 5 and 16 years decreased significantly between 1998 and 2008.

The number of school zone casualties is small, ranging between six and 29 each year in the sample reviewed, equivalent to an estimated 60 annually in all NSW school zones. By comparison, on average there were 2,000 school age casualties each year on the NSW road system.

The analysis of school zone casualties found that the largest reduction over the ten years was for school aged pedestrians. This reduction was greater than for overall road casualties and all pedestrian casualties.

In the last decade two child pedestrian fatalities in school zones have been recorded. Another occurred where a school zone was subsequently installed. None of these fatalities was caused by speeding, and one was at least partly due to unsafe parking practices.
Source - Auditor-General's Report, NSW Audit Office:
NSW Audit Office - Performance Reports - 2010 - Improving Road Safety: School Zones - Executive Summary

"The 65 speed cameras in school zones generated fines worth $31.1 million in 2007-08 and $22.3 million in 2008-09."
You should read the RTA response and it is interesting that there is less than 1% of the traffic being fined for speeding in those zones with the variable speed cameras and yet millions of dollars are raised in those fines.
Does this equate to 99% obeying the school zone speed limit where there is a fixed variable speed camera?


"The RTA does not support the introduction of higher fines for speeding infringements in school zones" apparently believing they are adequate as they are on average 50% higher than for other similar offences in normal road zones.

Interesting reading.

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Old 11th March 2010, 07:08 PM
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finally someone has read and taken in what i have been saying.
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Old 11th March 2010, 07:27 PM
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If you did in fact read the original post I'm sure you would have seen that he was doing 59 in what he honestly though was a 60 zone.
Pretty sure I can read thanks.

But it wasn't a 60 zone at that time was it......... Irrespective of what he thought....

And I don't watch today tonight either.

ETA Fair enough too, He isnt a hoon. My P plate comment wasnt aimed at him as such, more a comment on the frequency of accidents involving them as a group.
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Old 11th March 2010, 07:34 PM
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Tony,

Cheer up. It's not the end of the world (that comes later).

I lost my license years ago. I survived. My social life picked up during that time as I didn't have to worry about a car.

I recently worked with a fellow who was done for lots over 110 on a country road. He found some lawyer who delayed the court case quite a while. In the end, it was argued that it was so long since the offence, that justice would not be seen to be done. It cost him lots of money but he kept his license. Search the net for some solutions.

My advice to you would be, cop it sweet and pay the fine.

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As others have said, take it to court, admit you made a mistake, and you recognise the need for the school zones, and point out this is your first offence,
This is good advice but don't take it to court (that's just throwing good money after bad).
Write a clear, succinct and to the point letter admitting you made a mistake and you recognise the need for the school zones. Point out this is your first offence and you are sorry. Send this with a cheque for payment of the fine.

Then cross your fingers and wait.

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Painted lines wont work in NSW because the roads are so badly made here....the standing water on roads when it rains is atrocious and you can not see the lines on the road when in heavy rain especially when it is sunny..........
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ok im sick of this and people being a pain in the a-hole so thanks for those who have given me helpful advice and thanks for those who have understood what i have said and understood why i started this thread in the 1st place which was for help. so if a mod sees this feel free to close it

cheers tony
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ok im sick of this and people being a pain in the a-hole so thanks for those who have given me helpful advice and thanks for those who have understood what i have said and understood why i started this thread in the 1st place which was for help. so if a mod sees this feel free to close it

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