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Old 12th March 2010, 06:06 PM
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At work it would appear that there is a definite Gen-Y thing happening... about half of our Gen-Yers are pretty slack with strange work ethics.
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I'm gonna jump in here before we get the "us vs. them" thing happening.

I have a number of staff I work with (Mostly blokes). I could say they work for me, but I try and think of us as a team. It just so happens that some fool put me in charge.

I have a number of Y's and X's and whatever comes before that.

Yes I notice that a number of the Y's have plenty of distractions. (Didn't you when you were 22?) the X's tend to be worried about young children and paying off their house. (Didn't you when you were 32?) and the old farts like me just talk about their super, or how much the "ex" costs them.

There are slack ones and terrific ones in each "generation".

Am I generalising? - probably

Are you? - definitely.


Ok back to the popcorn
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Old 12th March 2010, 07:33 PM
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I'm gonna jump in here before we get the "us vs. them" thing happening.

I have a number of staff I work with (Mostly blokes). I could say they work for me, but I try and think of us as a team. It just so happens that some fool put me in charge.

I have a number of Y's and X's and whatever comes before that.

Yes I notice that a number of the Y's have plenty of distractions. (Didn't you when you were 22?) the X's tend to be worried about young children and paying off their house. (Didn't you when you were 32?) and the old farts like me just talk about their super, or how much the "ex" costs them.

There are slack ones and terrific ones in each "generation".

Am I generalising? - probably

Are you? - definitely.


Ok back to the popcorn
Well put Paul, my experience too. Out of a staff of 19, my two worst employees consist of 1 X Gen x and a baby boomer. Let's not allow the truth to get in the way of entertainment though.

Enough popcorn there for two?
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Came across this email a while ago , may have seen it before ,
i sent it to both my teenage kids


This should be posted in every school.



Love him or hate him, he sure hits the nail on the head with this!
Bill Gates recently gave a speech at a High School about 11 things they did not and will not learn in school. He talks about how feel-good, politically correct teachings created a generation of kids with no concept of reality and how this concept set them up for failure in the real world.

Rule 3 : You will NOT make $60,000 a year right out of high school. You won't be a vice-president with a car phone until you earn both.




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Hmmm ...probably not that recently....... I reckon early 1980s by the reference to "car phones" being something elitist, so it says this problem is not new either.
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Hmmm ...probably not that recently....... I reckon early 1980s by the reference to "car phones" being something elitist, so it says this problem is not new either.
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The above is very possible up here....

Often we have 17-18 yr olds with more than 1 mobile (they have an Optus & Telstra and use the appropriate one to text mates with similar for $0.01) working shift work on the site making $80k+

I've never seen so many P platers driving $25k+ vehicles....
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I think too, from what I see, Gen-Y's have been given more choices and education at a higher level (eg Uni) much more accessible. So you have these qualified kids, being taught at Uni that they are the greatest once they graduate. No wonder they start work and become disillusioned when they dont get VP of a multinational organisation.

BUT, I have also see many who do have a hand out expecting everything for nothing, a gimmie gimmie attitude! Again, I wonder if parents are to blame somewhat (us included)...
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In the IT field we have a similar situation to the above, big money for smart young blokes who want to have a go. That all works well until they find themselves going for a position where some perspective and experience are necessary.
From what I've seen it is pretty easy to get to the point where you are earning 100K + doing technical work but if you want to get further it requires the good judgement that only comes with age.
In my generation (entering the workforce in the early 80s ) I spent a few years earning much less than my mates as I completed my trade and then I leapfrogged them to be earning 50% more than them by the time I was in my mid twenties. I then spent the next 10 years getting to the same pay levels that a 30 year old could expect today but the experience that I have gained makes me more valuable to an employer than a 20-something with the same quals, which is why I am paid more than them much to their disgust .
I think that a lot of the Gen Y people on the big money now will find that as they mature they may have a longer wait until they can make that jump to more responsible positions, although they will be paid more comparatively than previous generations while they are waiting.
It is a very different employment market out there than it was 20 years ago.

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I'm gonna jump in here before we get the "us vs. them" thing happening.

I have a number of staff I work with (Mostly blokes). I could say they work for me, but I try and think of us as a team. It just so happens that some fool put me in charge.

I have a number of Y's and X's and whatever comes before that.

Yes I notice that a number of the Y's have plenty of distractions. (Didn't you when you were 22?) the X's tend to be worried about young children and paying off their house. (Didn't you when you were 32?) and the old farts like me just talk about their super, or how much the "ex" costs them.

There are slack ones and terrific ones in each "generation".

Am I generalising? - probably

Are you? - definitely.


Ok back to the popcorn


As a supervisor myself,, I have to whole heartedly agree with this/these statements,,
I find the hardest thing to teach any generation, is the team/help spirit thing. , and that its not "always" about blaming someone,,young verses old,,and vise versa
Having said that,, what happens on the home front, and what happens at the work front, can be a very different story,,but,, we should still hire them at 16, whilst they still know all there is to know,,,

Pass the popcorn please,,
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This would be me!

But it's cool, I like working. Working = money = buy fun stuff!

I do know a few people that have gotten to my age (23) without ever having even a part time job. and honestly, i dont get. I guess their parents pay for A LOT of their stuff (phone bills, car rego's etc..) which is a wee bit rediculous!
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