Gen Y - the entitled to it all generation - Page 3

Lotz-A-Landies · #21 (**permalink**) 16th March 2010, 08:01 AM

The big hurdle for Gen Y and Gen X is that with the Global Financial Meltdown, they now have to learn about managing credit card debt. It seems that this is a very new concept and is hitting them very hard.

Poor souls!

Shonky · #22 (**permalink**) 16th March 2010, 08:22 AM

Young people are lazy, p platers are hooligans, and modern music is all about sex, drugs and killing cops.

Of course, when the baby boomers were in their 20s, they were never distracted by girls or partying, and never had ambitions of earning more than was realistic. And when they went home from their 25 hour working day they always drove exactly as they do now, and not like a P plate hooligan sans P plates.

And music wasn't at all controversial in the '60s and '70s! So Bob Marley sang about shooting police officers... I'm sure he was merely looking to the future - after all music wasn't like that back then, was it?

Youth doesn't change, old people just have skewed memories. Your parents despaired for you as you do for your own children. I'm sure when we all stop being so irresponsible and have kids of our own, we will probably have the same gripes, and be equally ignorant of our own coming of age!

Useless youths grow into useless adults. Trust me - I am sitting in an office full of people in cardigans who can barely be bothered reading their emails, and bitch and moan constantly about their pay and entitlements. Lazy and wanting a handout. Sound familiar?

Ahhh... generationalisations. Gotta love it.

Sleepy · #23 (**permalink**) 16th March 2010, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Shonky

Young people are lazy, p platers are hooligans, and modern music is all about sex, drugs and killing cops.

Of course, when the baby boomers were in their 20s, they were never distracted by girls or partying, and never had ambitions of earning more than was realistic. And when they went home from their 25 hour working day they always drove exactly as they do now, and not like a P plate hooligan sans P plates.

And music wasn't at all controversial in the '60s and '70s! So Bob Marley sang about shooting police officers... I'm sure he was merely looking to the future - after all music wasn't like that back then, was it?

Youth doesn't change, old people just have skewed memories. Your parents despaired for you as you do for your own children. I'm sure when we all stop being so irresponsible and have kids of our own, we will probably have the same gripes, and be equally ignorant of our own coming of age!

Useless youths grow into useless adults. Trust me - I am sitting in an office full of people in cardigans who can barely be bothered reading their emails, and bitch and moan constantly about their pay and entitlements. Lazy and wanting a handout. Sound familiar?

Ahhh... generationalisations. Gotta love it.

Ahh, love it, young shonkster. Although Bob Marley was singing an Eric Clapton song.

(Heard of him? - Richard Clapton's uncle .....hehehehe...who's Richard Clapton?? OK forget it! ....he's another old dude.)

And no-one can remember any bad stuff from the 60's and 70's - it was all cooooooooool mannnn! (OK the Bob Marley theme has come back again!!!

)

Diana,

When I was in my 20's all the yuppies went broke in the 1987 stock market crash....another insignificant blip on the financial graph of time - Seems to me the only ones to lose in the GFC were those who were greedy and exposed. "Risk" is a four letter word to some!

MickS · #24 (**permalink**) 16th March 2010, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Shonky

Young people are lazy, p platers are hooligans, and modern music is all about sex, drugs and killing cops.

Yes, yes and yes.

I'm sure if Bill Hayley had named his band N****** With Attitude, the KKK would have seen it wasn't only books that were being burnt in the 50's...

Of course, when the baby boomers were in their 20s, they were never distracted by girls or partying, and never had ambitions of earning more than was realistic. And when they went home from their 25 hour working day they always drove exactly as they do now, and not like a P plate hooligan sans P plates.

All night trading was unheard of...my first job paid $120 per fortnight, and I caught a train and bus to get to where I had to work because as a P plater, I could not afford a car due to the $120 per fortnight pay.

And music wasn't at all controversial in the '60s and '70s! So Bob Marley sang about shooting police officers... I'm sure he was merely looking to the future - after all music wasn't like that back then, was it?

It was the sheriff...and I don't recall Gene Pitney or Val Doonican singing "**** tha Police"

Youth doesn't change, old people just have skewed memories. Your parents despaired for you as you do for your own children. I'm sure when we all stop being so irresponsible and have kids of our own, we will probably have the same gripes, and be equally ignorant of our own coming of age!

Useless youths grow into useless adults. Trust me - I am sitting in an office full of people in cardigans who can barely be bothered reading their emails, and bitch and moan constantly about their pay and entitlements. Lazy and wanting a handout. Sound familiar?

Ahhh... generationalisations. Gotta love it.

Well generalised Shonky...

Lotz-A-Landies · #25 (**permalink**) 16th March 2010, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Shonky

Young people are lazy, p platers are hooligans, and modern music is all about sex, drugs and killing cops. True

Of course, when the baby boomers were in their 20s, they were never distracted by girls or partying*, No when baby boomers were in their (sic) 20's they were having a moratorium on the Vietnam War and never had ambitions of earning more than was realistic. And when they went home from their 25 hour working day they always drove exactly as they do now, and not like a P plate hooligan sans P plates. Most baby boomers had their licences BEFORE "P" plates.
And music wasn't at all controversial in the '60s and '70s! So Bob Marley sang about shooting police officers... Baby boomers were being shot and killed by the government (e.g National Guard at Duke University), the NSW State Premier (Rob Askin) told his driver to run over demonstrators, so writing about shooting police was fair and reasonable. I'm sure he was merely looking to the future - after all music wasn't like that back then, was it?

Youth doesn't change, old people just have skewed memories. Are you all that sure or is it the invulnerability and infalliability of youth that's showing? Your parents despaired for you as you do for your own children. There was a mothers group called SOS (Save our Sons) that demonstrated against conscription and the Vietnam War so they were in it too. I'm sure when we all stop being so irresponsible and have kids of our own, we will probably have the same gripes, and be equally ignorant of our own coming of age! Except that the psychologists and workplace efficiency experts write programmes on how to manage Gen X and Gen Y employees. So there must be differences. Hippies never had jobs so never needed to be managed at work!

Useless youths grow into useless adults. Trust me - I am sitting in an office full of people in cardigans who can barely be bothered reading their emails, and bitch and moan constantly about their pay and entitlements. Lazy and wanting a handout. Sound familiar? But you work for the Public Service, where bitching and moaning is a work requirement!

Ahhh... generationalisations. Gotta love it.

See red above.

You also have to understand that baby boomers were the generation that achieved things for others, not self-centred motives like the must have it now generations. The 60's produced citizenship for indigenous Australians, the woman's movement and equal rights, free health system, anti-discrimination, lead to the gay rights movement and this while they were still in their 20 and early thirties. These are things that "the have it now" generations take for granted, but which were hard fought for changes in society, which in no small way came about because of the baby-boomer generation.

What have Gen X and Gen Y done for others in the community???????

* Did you ever hear of Woodstock?

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Originally Posted by MickS

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Originally Posted by shonky

<snip>Of course, when the baby boomers were in their 20s, they were never distracted by girls or partying, and never had ambitions of earning more than was realistic. And when they went home from their 25 hour working day they always drove exactly as they do now, and not like a P plate hooligan sans P plates.
All night trading was unheard of...my first job paid $120 per fortnight, and I caught a train and bus to get to where I had to work because as a P plater, I could not afford a car due to the $120 per fortnight pay.

Well generalised Shonky...

My first job I was paid $28 per week and got $2 extra if I came 1/2 an hour earlier 6 days per week. I had to have a good excuse why I didn't want to work on Sunday. My second job paid $45 per week for a full 40 hour week with meal breaks in my own time.

Other older baby boomers will tell you of lower pay rates.

rovercare · #26 (**permalink**) 16th March 2010, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MickS

It was the sheriff...and I don't recall Gene Pitney or Val Doonican singing "**** tha Police"

But did not shoot the deputy...

Ahh, rage against the machine

Sleepy · #27 (**permalink**) 16th March 2010, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

60's produced citizenship for indigenous Australians, the woman's movement and equal rights, free health system, anti-discrimination, lead to the gay rights movement and this while they were still in their 20 and early thirties. These are things that "the have it now" generations take for granted, but which were hard fought for changes in society, which in no small way came about because of the baby-boomer generation.

Hang on Diana

, Citizenship for indigenous Australians was 1967. The oldest Baby Boomer would have been 24. The youngest 4. Not sure BB's can take the credit for that one.

In fact by 1970 the oldest Baby Boomer was 27, so again I feel the generation before that (Depression Kids?- not sure what they're called??) would take credit for most initiatives then.

Not to discount your argument but I just dont think it was credit to BB's who probably didn't have significant influence until "Its Time" and the the Vietnam moratoriums of 1971-2?

Then of course we can blame BB's for Sandman Panelvans, Sideburns and Early 70's worship of USA ("Laying on Arkansas Grass", "You need Uncle Sam"

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I was only 8 so happy to be corrected.

Mick_Marsh · #28 (**permalink**) 16th March 2010, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shonky

Young people are lazy, p platers are hooligans, and modern music is all about sex, drugs and killing cops.

Of course, when the baby boomers were in their 20s, they were never distracted by girls or partying, and never had ambitions of earning more than was realistic. And when they went home from their 25 hour working day they always drove exactly as they do now, and not like a P plate hooligan sans P plates.

And music wasn't at all controversial in the '60s and '70s! So Bob Marley sang about shooting police officers... I'm sure he was merely looking to the future - after all music wasn't like that back then, was it?

Youth doesn't change, old people just have skewed memories. Your parents despaired for you as you do for your own children. I'm sure when we all stop being so irresponsible and have kids of our own, we will probably have the same gripes, and be equally ignorant of our own coming of age!

Useless youths grow into useless adults. Trust me - I am sitting in an office full of people in cardigans who can barely be bothered reading their emails, and bitch and moan constantly about their pay and entitlements. Lazy and wanting a handout. Sound familiar?

Ahhh... generationalisations. Gotta love it.

Hey!
I'm a baby boomer.
(I haven't grown up though but my toy cars have)

I know what you mean. As older adults we tend to forget the indiscretions of our past.

And what's wrong with a nice cardy, they keep the chill off.

rockyroad · #29 (**permalink**) 16th March 2010, 10:05 PM

Apparently being a 1980 model I am told that puts me in Gen Y but I can tell you that I have absolutely nothing in common with most of them.

I drive a Defender which is slow and uncool, a Discovery before that which was considered a Grandads car. Most of the music I listen too is older than me.

Who comes up with this generation rubbish and what will be next?

itchynipl · #30 (**permalink**) 16th March 2010, 10:29 PM

I cant beleive that there is so much bagging of the Gen Y or am I the minority? Yes I will agree that there are a number of Gen Y's out there that want to sit on their a** & get paid to do nothing; every generation has their fair share of hopeless idiots. However have you ever looked at who is lining up for the doll? There are people from each generation there & the older you get the more of a stereotype you place on the generations younger then you.

Personally I was working 3 jobs & going to school at the same time & since leaving school only 6 years ago I am now in a position of power within a large multi-national company. I put the long hrs in to get to where I want to go & I see a number of older staff who do their 8 hrs & go home yet they wonder why I get the benefits & the extra perks. It's not rocket science!

Currently I have 6 Gen Y's working for me & they actually work the hardest out of all my staff that range from Gen Y to Baby Boomers.

I guess the message here is that you shouldnt judge a book by its cover & stereotype the WHOLE generation. Understand that yes there are some that want everything & don't want to do anything to get it but this is in every generation.

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