Gen Y - the entitled to it all generation - Page 4

samuelclarke · #31 (**permalink**) 16th March 2010, 11:43 PM

Stereotypes are very often just that. Stereotypes. To quote the dictionary definition, "a widely held but fixed and oversimplified image or idea of a particular type of person or thing"

I do agree that gen Y'ers in general are more inclined to take the easy route...but you'd have to be kidding yourself to say that gen X'ers and baby boomers were that drastically better as a whole. If anything I'd say from my observation that we've had three generations of very, comparatively, easy living and it's having it's affect to a greater degree on each passing generation.

To be honest I think the biggest factor is work ethics being passed on from the previous generation...which you have to then take yourself and make your own. Good old fashioned hard work and both patience and impatience (for waiting on getting things you wish you had and for achieving goals, respectively) are the greatest keys in my book. It starts with the work ethics others rub off on you (especially parents) and ends with yourself. And that isn't limited to any generation, education level, race, gender or age.

Now, let me get off my soapbox...

Lotz-A-Landies · #32 (**permalink**) 17th March 2010, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Sleepy

Hang on Diana

, Citizenship for indigenous Australians was 1967. The oldest Baby Boomer would have been 24. The youngest 4. Not sure BB's can take the credit for that one.

In fact by 1970 the oldest Baby Boomer was 27, so again I feel the generation before that (Depression Kids?- not sure what they're called??) would take credit for most initiatives then.

Not to discount your argument but I just dont think it was credit to BB's who probably didn't have significant influence until "Its Time" and the the Vietnam moratoriums of 1971-2?

Then of course we can blame BB's for Sandman Panelvans, Sideburns and Early 70's worship of USA ("Laying on Arkansas Grass", "You need Uncle Sam"

)

I was only 8 so happy to be corrected.

Interesting debate Paul

I must agree with you that many of these movements came about because of the generations that came before, the women's suffrage movement existed from the 1800's the BBs parent's generation who experienced both depression and WWII coupled with the Australian philosophy of a fair go, however the huge increase in population caused by the PWBB's may not have had a direct impact on the outcome of the 1967 referendum, but certainly BB's were quite vocal about the issue and by 1973 when the voting age was reduced to 18 there were 13 years of BB's voting.

The issue is that these generations culminating in the PWBB's were generally civic minded with a community spirit. Not what is generally found in the ego-centric generations after the PWBB's.

I still ask the question, what have Gen X and Gen Y yet given the world?

Sleepy · #33 (**permalink**) 17th March 2010, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

The issue is what have Gen X and Gen Y yet given the world?

Ummm...... Kylie Minogue and Paris Hilton

klappers · #34 (**permalink**) 17th March 2010, 02:31 AM

Gen Y's are so lazy that they havent even contributed to the world... Probably because they forgot...

On a serious note though.. who cares who contributed to what and when.. doesnt really matter does it. If one has a civic duty and so on and so forth, you dont then get on the soap box and preach it to the world. I am a 1983 vintage and I bust my ass for what I have. I would rather live in a shoe box and be happy with my family then have a 500,000 house to pay off... Life is what matters in my world.. Each day I wake and I am just happy that the man upstairs hasnt seen fit to take me yet, and alot of the Gen Y's that I work with are the same! So back off, butt out and get on living your life and stop worrying about mine.

Shonky · #35 (**permalink**) 17th March 2010, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Sleepy

...Bob Marley was singing an Eric Clapton song.

GASP!

Other way around Sleeps! (although I concede that Claptons version is the better one...)

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Originally Posted by MickS

Well generalised Shonky...

That was the point.

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Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

The 60's produced citizenship for indigenous Australians, the woman's movement and equal rights, free health system, anti-discrimination, lead to the gay rights movement and this while they were still in their 20 and early thirties. These are things that "the have it now" generations take for granted, but which were hard fought for changes in society, which in no small way came about because of the baby-boomer generation.

Such things are hazy, but it is generally considered that the baby boomer era started in the mid/late 40s and ended in the early 60s!

So all of the things you mention as achievements of the 1960s were accomplished by teenagers and babies?

So the young baby boomers did a lot of protesting about their circumstances and brought about change. Good on them! They are also the ones running the country now - nice going financial gurus!

Perhaps Australia is a more fair and equitable place thanks to the baby boomers, but if it is all going well, why change that? Why does a generation as a whole have to don the tie-dye shirt and wave a sign to justify it's existance? Culture change has happened and humanity is in a better place because of it. Continue that and the job is done.

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Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

What have Gen X and Gen Y done for others in the community???????

You fought for gay rights and black citizens (sort of) - we (generalising) fight for action against climate change and an end to third world poverty.
The (predominantly social) changes you attribute to the baby boomers have been developed well beyond the intended scope by post BB generations.

If you were an X/Y what causes would you be getting behind? Sure there are lots of issues, but which big issues need a whole generation to be up in arms?

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Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

My first job I was paid $28 per week and got $2 extra if I came 1/2 an hour earlier 6 days per week. I had to have a good excuse why I didn't want to work on Sunday. My second job paid $45 per week for a full 40 hour week with meal breaks in my own time.

And what was the price of petrol? The cost of a house? a car?

Everything is relative!

Disclaimer: All of the above is said in the spirit of good natured debate. The overall theme is that every generation has it's ups and downs, its louts and it's legends. A generation full of young people will always act with less maturity than a generation full of older citizens. Comparing a young generation from 20 years ago is futile - the world was a very different place (better in some ways, worse in others) and anecdotal evidence based on memories is unreliable. As we age we interpret things differently. This includes our own self reflection!

Sleepy · #36 (**permalink**) 17th March 2010, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Shonky

Other way around Sleeps! (although I concede that Claptons version is the better one...)

I learn something very day.

Young frickin fracken smartarse gen-y whippersnapper

Lotz-A-Landies · #37 (**permalink**) 17th March 2010, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Shonky

And what was the price of petrol? The cost of a house? a car?

Everything is relative!

from memory the cost of petrol was between 20 and 27 cpl about 20% of what it is now. At least that is what it was in the mid 1970's and my $28 job was in 1973.

I doubt that anyone would work the equivalent of 5-6 times my 1973 wages ($150/per week) for a 6 day week today.

Shonky · #38 (**permalink**) 17th March 2010, 08:46 AM

I am surprised no one has put this up yet - so I will!

YouTube- Monty Python - Four Yorkshiremen

Shonky · #39 (**permalink**) 17th March 2010, 08:49 AM

*double post*

isuzutoo-eh · #40 (**permalink**) 17th March 2010, 10:09 AM

I must be a Gen Y member because I am too lazy to read the entire thread.

But thats okay, because thats what my generation has been told to be like.
Stereotypes are fun to play up. When the whinging generation who's behind the sun shines out of tells me I am lazy, what am I to do but meet expectations? Damned if I'm going to help someone that complains about everything I try and do. I don't want to be grumbled at.
Baby boomers just like to whinge about everyone else!

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