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    On a related tack...

    Regarding knee surgery:

    This article deals with a common procedure (at least in the USofA) - and looks at the similar benefits resulting from the actual (invasive) operation, and from a totally fake one...

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    and here as well...

    Arthroscopic Surgery - Just a Placebo Effect? | PlaceboEffect.com

    Just goes to show, that a second opinion is never a waste of time, no matter where it might point you. Your gut-feeling will usually tell you which one is correct...

    I was diagnosed with Type 2 Diabetes, and long-story-short, the conventional medical prognosis is.... eventual probable progression to Type 1. I got 'second opinions' and their consensus was ....'conventional medicine' does'nt know how to cure/halt it.
    So I did the opposite of what the diabetic "experts" said.... Guess the result !
    Same with my high BP. Ditto excessive spare tyres...

    Nothing wrong with a 3rd or more views at the same problem.

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    About 13 years ago I badly broke my ankle (a bone I didn't even know I had called the talus). Luckily I had someone who is widely regarded as one of Perth's top orthopaedic surgeons. Also just as fortunate was his advice that surgery should be last resort. He wanted to see what would happen after being immobilised for a while and amazingly it healed back very nicely.

    Not sure if the healing was helped by the large amount of milk I still drink (love the stuff) but in the last couple of years I have even managed to run two marathons and not had any major issue with the ankle.

    Glucosamine was recommended by many. Have also taken it on and off.

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    My son did his knee in playing rugby, torn meniscus. It was extremely sore and he couldn't straighten it. We couldn't get an MRI as his bent leg wouldn't fit and so it was a calculated guess as to what had happened to his knee (X-ray didn't show any breaks). The surgery was keyhole. Discharged the next day from hospital with his leg was in a restrictive brace for 6 weeks. All up a successful operation.

    I hope Heather's op is soon and it all goes well.

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    Ive had a couple of ligament reconstructions over the years
    Last year I had someone slam a car door into my knee as he felt he did not wish to make my acquaintance, this broke the patella straight down the guts and chipped the bone also, This was cleaned out (the floating bits removed, the torn ligament edges (I did this chasing and tackling him after he did my knee...my bad! didnt think it was quite as serious!)) trimmed (at least not broken/torn through this time) and sadly the last of the cartledge was 'trimmed' out of it)

    I have recently had some trouble after playing cricket (knee swelling very badly and extreme pain on bending) Diagnosis? basic arthritis, its down to bone on bone.. So its been recommended to take daily doses of panadol osteo and also at least one capsule a day of stuff containing condroitin sulphate (i hope thats spelt right!).. (usually comes in a "joint formula") These are available over the counter without prescription.

    It was described to me as being something to assist more longer term in aleviating pain by helping lubricate the joint, its not a cure nor a miracle fix but a help.

    Recommended by a friend though was a cream called "pain away arthritis cream" - Its been quite a relief to use this cream as it does tend to help relieve the pain. It is in a bright orange jar with a green lid and weve only found it at a place called chemist warehouse, at $12-14 a jar.

    Finally I still quite often use a support brace, just a neoprene brace that has a hole for the knee cap and three velcro straps to hold it in place, they are available from chemists also and can assist in taking the strain from the joint, the kneecap and the ligaments and muscles around the knee..

    Hope that things get much better for your girl and soon, good on you for not accepting without questioning.

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    It is a torn meniscus, and they will take a sample of the fluid as well to make sure there is nothing else going on there as well.
    The joys of getting old. Heather


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    With my son's torn meniscus it hadn't come away completely and had folded back on itself which is what made it impossible for him to straighten his leg. There was enough of the meniscus still attached and so they could use sutures the meniscus back to the bone (what ever it attaches to anyway).

    Hopefully it works out well for you Heather.

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    i hate to be a negative nancy, i hate when people go to a second doctor for an opinion when they dont like the diagnosis of the first.

    (im not suggesting the op has done this)

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    Well it's a waiting game now to see how long I have to wait before I can have it repaired. Heather


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    Quote Originally Posted by Eevo View Post
    i hate to be a negative nancy, i hate when people go to a second doctor for an opinion when they dont like the diagnosis of the first.

    (im not suggesting the op has done this)
    Frankly, I think it is the sensible thing to do with anything serious. This includes the both the diagnosis and the proposed treatment. Doctors are ordinary people doing extremely difficult jobs - they are not infallible. They have differing levels of diagnostic experience and have differing approaches/techniques to treatment.

    You can't always get the right doctor for you by just going with the first one your referred to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferret View Post
    You can't always get the right doctor for you by just going with the first one your referred to.
    i understand that.
    im refering to people that are in denial about their condition.

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