Thread: Coroner finds off-road park management poses danger

This is not fair. It's just crazy!

Originally Posted by WhiteD3

Yeah but Dobbo, then you'd struggle to find someone else to blame for any mishap, misjudgment, poor planning, lack of skill, over confidence or stupidity on your part (I mean that in the nicest possible way).

Trust me, I work for a Public service.

I'm sure I could find someone to blame.

I haven't been to Black Duck for a few years but the last time I was there the tracks were so badly erroded and little to no matenance was done that even the most experienced 4WDer would have though twice in taclking tracks as such. The park seemed to be more caterd for bikes rather than 4WD's and many clubs were advoiding the place like the plague because the motorbike rider are careless, rude and generally inticed yobbos to frequent the place (that's the way i felt when I was last there)

Plus may I add the cost of a day's wheeling was far too expensive, many of there competitors were much cheaper at the time.

I agree with all that people need to take resposibility and need to use a fair whack of common sense when visiting places such as 4WD parks but the park owners need to make sure that unsafe tracks are closed off to either re-generate or pave way for safer alternatives. it's a two way street. they're happy to take your money but not offer much if anything in return.

I can see another 4WD park going the same way (those whov'e been there know where).

Trav

Originally Posted by aquarangie

I can see another 4WD park going the same way (those whov'e been there know where).

Trav

i see in my crystal ball one south of here,
no receipts, so where is the money going mr tax man, no track maintenance, 'cause the money goes somewhere else, and why do want a receipt - to show me that all is above board and there is a good chance that we are covered insurance wise.

however we can only hope that the recent events at black duck and the more recent death at boonah[?] do not affect the insurance costs of the operators of these places and we can go to them for a good trip on safe tracks.
------note here also that we have to take some responsibility for our own actions----
we do take our vehicles into some tricky situations and there is the possibility of an accident anywhere, and if it was my fault or yours, then i hope we have the conviction to admit that.

just back to track maintenance, for those here that might be watching from their 4wd park,
the general 4wd owner enjoys a challenge and a trip to these parks to see what we he can achieve with his vehicle in accordance with his skill level.
some of us don't know what our skill level is.
by maintaining the tracks and cleaning up the dug out parts that only highly modified vehicle can use we can have the standard vehicles also pass through these tracks with out damage or accidents.
but very carefully restrict the tough parts to modified vehicles so the novice cannot go there.
i have often been on a park track that has been rutted out to much for the normal 4wd, but not marked as such on the park map, as the track maintenance has not been kept up
all the above is my thoughts and not gclro policy.

now, gclro committee has already chosen not to use a park due to lack of maintenance and cancelled a club trip because of that.
we will endeavour to monitor the parks and plan our trips with safety in mind as usual.

What's a 4wd park?

Sux to be a QLDer

I have only been there once and that was enough. Some of the tracks have no room for error at all. So that would explain why I have never led a trip there. But it all comes back to the person behind the wheel. It soley rests on the drivers decision to attempt a track or not. lets face it we have all been on tracks that could pose a problem if something goes pear shaped. I think we should get behind the 4wd parks that do the right thing and are set up for 4wders only. We have to look after ourselves, too many people trying to ban us already.

Justin

Most of the parks do but a couple are ripping into us by charging like a wounded bull for bugger-all in return.

Rovercare- Most of the public access areas are either sanatised or more suited to RAV4's. Still a few good places (like Glasshouse Mtns) so the parks are the only alternatives if you want to do some real 4WDing.

There's always Northen NSW, good stuff in some parts still.

Trav

Originally Posted by rovercare

What's a 4wd park?

Sux to be a QLDer

you guys have the high country at your back door