Is there a God? - Page 6

WhiteD3 · #51 (**permalink**) 17th July 2008, 09:11 PM

For the record, I'm not religious in any sense, and I've seen too many bad things happen to believe in any benevolent being who'll look after me if I worship him.

Take this story (and you need to read the whole thing)

Hope dies as bodies exchanged - World - smh.com.au

Two sides, same god (although Jesus plays a lessor role for some). They use religion to justify these........atrocities (can't think of another word). Where's God? You'd think he'd (or She as the case maybe) would pop in and say "Wow, enough is enough", but no.

carjunkieanon · #52 (**permalink**) 18th July 2008, 07:41 PM

If you can add the option 'Yes there's a God - and he became a man 2000 years ago.' - I'll tick that one.

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wally · #53 (**permalink**) 19th July 2008, 10:36 AM

I believe in facts that are established through a rigorous process of research, debate, and peer review among established and appropriately qualified professionals. I believe in rigorously testing hypotheses to establish probabilities and degrees of significance. I believe in evidence. I don't believe in dogma and superstition. Science (or anyone else) has failed to show a shred of evidence for the existence of a God. When I see evidence then I'll believe.

wally · #54 (**permalink**) 19th July 2008, 10:44 AM

...Anyway why can't we have a religion based on Land Rovers. It would be so much more fun.

Ralph1Malph · #55 (**permalink**) 20th July 2008, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Ralph1Malph

I did in fact vote, but didn't particularly like the choices

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Everyone forgets about us Jedi

Ralph

Forgot the piccie!

DiscoStew · #56 (**permalink**) 20th July 2008, 08:50 PM

Note the Disco in the background.

Has anyone else noticed that just as this thread looks like it is about to be buried on page 2 it is resurrected??

Gordon · #57 (**permalink**) 20th July 2008, 10:55 PM

Don't know if there is a God

But I do believe in St Paedophile!!

Why do old men walk about in ornate Frocks.

Now who is Queen of the Desert??

x-box · #58 (**permalink**) 21st July 2008, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by wally

I believe in facts that are established through a rigorous process of research, debate, and peer review among established and appropriately qualified professionals????. I believe in rigorously testing hypotheses to establish probabilities and degrees of significance. I believe in evidence. I don't believe in dogma and superstition. Science (or anyone else) has failed to show a shred of evidence for the existence of a God. When I see evidence then I'll believe.

My point exactly, then it is fact and not faith, and you have missed the whole point. Suppose people cured from cancer and severe osteoporosis is no evidence, or a person that has been in a wheelchair for 14 years that walks and runs either, or people born blind that sees again after 30-odd years does'nt happen? All after being prayed for, and a lot of it instantly, but if you're not there you won't see it and thus not believe. Pity. God is not into grandstanding and gives humans the free will to make choices.

As far as a helping hand goes wannalandy - you won't see it even if it hits you in the face - for you are a self-made man. Good philosophy to take all the credit for your success and blame all the tragedy in your life on God? Smacks of double standards in my opinion

DiscoStew · #59 (**permalink**) 21st July 2008, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Gordon

Don't know if there is a God

But I do believe in St Paedophile!!

Why do old men walk about in ornate Frocks.

Now who is Queen of the Desert??

While I think that the churches have handled this issue extremely poorly and the clergy seem to be over-represented in the ranks of paedophiles (which might have more to do with reporting than reality), I must take exception at any inference that all priests are pedos. The vast majority that I have met, and I have met a lot of them, are very genuine, caring people who have dedicated their lives to helping others. We might argue that the organisation they have joined is less than ideal, and the God they believe in doesn't exist, but the bottom line is their intentions are honourable.

wally · #60 (**permalink**) 21st July 2008, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DiscoStew

While I think that the churches have handled this issue extremely poorly and the clergy seem to be over-represented in the ranks of paedophiles (which might have more to do with reporting than reality), I must take exception at any inference that all priests are pedos. The vast majority that I have met, and I have met a lot of them, are very genuine, caring people who have dedicated their lives to helping others. We might argue that the organisation they have joined is less than ideal, and the God they believe in doesn't exist, but the bottom line is their intentions are honourable.

Fair enough. People do good things because they are good people and not because of religion. Those people would no doubt still be caring people with the same honourable intentions in the absence of religion.

View Poll Results: Is there a God?
Nope, my ancestor was a microbe, when it’s over it’s over. Richard Dawkins is The Man!	82	50.62%
Tom Cruise is The Man! We're alien offspring.	2	1.23%
I’m 50/50. I don’t “believe” but sometimes “Practice”, but I hope there is something else.	22	13.58%
Intelligent design? My ancestor was a fish but that was on purpose. Yep, that’s me.	9	5.56%
Let’s go with the 7 day thing. The good book says so and I have faith.	47	29.01%
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