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Old 18th January 2010, 08:13 PM
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Personal responsibility is something we should not forget about. I don't want to live in a nanny state.
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Old 18th January 2010, 08:49 PM
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My first car was a little laser. best car i ever had
Bloke I grew up with died in a ****box old Laser, trying to race another fella, so your point is mute, quite stupid actually

I grew up as a "hoon" still am actually, but grown up a bit, have recorded GPS speeds in my first car at 256km/hr, I always liked fast cars, had high speed pursuits on numerous occasions, lost my licence 6 times in 3 years, spent more time without a brief than with one..........what happened? well, getting old?, nah, I just got a little smarter

Also, banning performance cars is a joke, the people who I personally know that died in motor vehicle accidents were in a Laser, 85 RR, WR250, YZF426 and another ran over on his ninja whilst sitting at the traffic lights, by a drug induced driver
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Bloke I grew up with died in a ****box old Laser, trying to race another fella, so your point is mute, quite stupid actually

I grew up as a "hoon" still am actually, but grown up a bit, have recorded GPS speeds in my first car at 256km/hr, I always liked fast cars, had high speed pursuits on numerous occasions, lost my licence 6 times in 3 years, spent more time without a brief than with one..........what happened? well, getting old?, nah, I just got a little smarter

Also, banning performance cars is a joke, the people who I personally know that died in motor vehicle accidents were in a Laser, 85 RR, WR250, YZF426 and another ran over on his ninja whilst sitting at the traffic lights, by a drug induced driver
I admire your honesty

Why did you do it?
Is it the speed the adreline rush. or because its wrong?

all of this speed could of been for good if it was on a race track

why run from the police and put even more people in danger?
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Old 18th January 2010, 09:55 PM
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^^^^ X2 ^^^^

Stick to carby 4 cyls whilst on p plates

With the advent of all this fancy pathetic electrickertry run engines, The manufacturers have the power to limit the output of the cars at the owners choice. Parents can give the kids, the "kids keys" and dads lowered hotted HSV has 90KW, and traction control is set to super sticky...



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spent my first year of P-plates in a mechanically stock Bluebird. couldn't speed in that thing if you tried! but even on wet roads with a heavy foot i found/exceeded the limits a couple of times...lesson learned.

after a year swapped in a fuel injected turbo 4-cylinder, and i have no trouble saying i probably would've killed myself if i'd done it straight away, instead of getting a year of driving experience first.

and all the fuss about XR6's, doesn't matter at all. we've got a BA Fairmont, Lexus IS300 and VR Berlina in the family and they're all more than enough to get you into trouble. all down toe driver attitude
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OK, Here's my thoughts.
Youngsters ( and some older ones) will always chase the adrenalin rush, no matter what, so we need - as a society- to make it harder.
We have had GPS & vehicle tracking now for over 10 years.
I just bought the latest Garmin & it shows the speed limit area's ( not perfect though).
This idea is really big brother stuff and will happen in some form for offenders before long anyway IMHO.
I reckon for well under $500 a year, all new drivers have a unit installed on thier vehicle that logs thier travel. It has a user pin number that locks the ignition. Like a stolen car, it can be identified & shut down remotely.
(BTW Since 9/11 most fuel companies track thier trucks & an alert comes up if they deviate thier route, they also can be shut down remotely, also used for fatigue management - a driver will get rung & told to park up within 10 min as the company is shutting down the engine as a workcare requirement)
Police can then simply pull over any driver check the unit is operating & check recent logs - anything really- & act as needed.
If a unit is tampered with or not showing recent travel, then immediate vehicle confiscation.
A 10% incidence of speeding for example could attract a fine & another 12 months of monitoring.
The above is only a brief outline.
Either that or we accept 100 or so hooning deaths P.A. as the price we pay for a free go for all.

Yes its scary stuff...
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oh yes..... blame speeding for all the deaths....

i guess thats why the fatality rate in the Northern Territory skyrocketed when the 130 speed limit on the highways was introduced?

something thats allways made me wonder...... the local fuzz get to play with a speed camera every few weeks...... i havent seen it on the main street for at least 18 months, allways on the highway..... yet why am i getting overtaken constantly whenever i drive around town?
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Old 19th January 2010, 05:49 AM
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I admire your honesty

Why did you do it?
Is it the speed the adreline rush. or because its wrong?

all of this speed could of been for good if it was on a race track

why run from the police and put even more people in danger?
Simple really, because its fun

Not sure if half the "older" people here realise, but the juvenile mind does not reason or hold logic the same as an older person, when your young, you think very little of the consequences, just the actions at the time, its part of youth, its not becuase they don;t care, its because they don;t think about it, my complete disregard for anything structured/authority has not been the reason I slowed down at all, its the fact I started to see the consequences to my actions, that is all,

You know, taking the GPS in your car, winding it out to see how fast it goes, making the small bends in the road, become fast flowing corners, for kilometres on end.......all in the wee hours of the morning, just isn;t something I want to do anymore? why?, things enter your head, what about the wombat you can't see or stop for, imagine hitting a rabbit heading through one of these bends/now corners at 250km/hr in a couple of ton of car, that's what everyone is thinking hey?

Not when your 18
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What about not giving people a licence until they are 21. Wouldn't help entirely but most kids are slightly more sensible by then...
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What about not giving people a licence until they are 21. Wouldn't help entirely but most kids are slightly more sensible by then...
yup.... and that would stop soooooo many kids from driving

hey...... remind me, how old was the punk who stole lara bingles aston martin?
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Old 19th January 2010, 08:39 AM
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Think that based on the UK experience that limiting the cars a new driver can take the wheel of is at best a PR exercise. If this worked why is it that in a country where a new driver is limited to a 1.0 litre engine car they can still manage to maintain the highest deaths age group?

The engine size limitation is enforced not by government but by the insurance companies. As a new driver even a 5 year old 1.0 litre engine car will set you back a few thousand pounds to insure. Car itself will probably have cost less than the insurance. All drivers have to be nominated on the individual cars insurance policy so do not think you are going to get round it by driving your parents car.
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