Neither would some guy sitting sitting in a van with a speed camera watching TV or a digital camera on a pole.

As long as it gives people a warm feeling and the government money then it's all good!

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 2005 Defender 110 

But he'll only kill himself or a pillion, not 3,4,5 or 6 &7 hidden in the boot.

Nearly got run over a short time ago, whilst walking. I was going to cross a road. but noticed a hoon coming at speed, he slowed down at the Stop Sign, but didn't stop then did the commodore fishtail left turn only to pull into a servo 15 metres away to fill up.
And we don't have a problem on our roads? He was just letting off boyish steam? that's the excuse some of you explain for justifying this behaviour isn't it. By the way the road he just speed into was full of peak hour traffic.

Hitler was defeated, no NAZI state for me.
While I can not give any "Iron clad" fix, maybe just maybe, if the gumbyment spent some fine revenue on compulsory driver training, then a few more of our silly young buggers will live!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh & can we just change your handle to "Always complaining"

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1995 V8 Disco 2" lift kit, bangin tunes thanks to Mr Alpine & Mr Pioneer, bugger all else so far!
So many bits to buy & install....... one day.

Soon to be Diesel, with ARB locker & snorkel..

I think the problem with that is that more accidents are caused by what people think they can do rather than what they really can do.

It's not about ability. It's about attitude.

When I was involved a few years back in some driver education (not diver training), it concentrated on making 16 - 17 year olds aware of important things that just might have affected their attitude towards owning, insuring and driving cars.. That approach had the support of the NRMA.

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1973 Series III LWB 1983 - 2006
1998 300 Tdi Defender Trayback 2006 -
- often fitted with a Trayon slide-on camper.

Quick ban walking across the road, it nearly got you killed

Every now and then I still feel the need for speed, only problem is we no longer have and speedy cars (defender and a barina).

I would have to say that apart from getting older the thing that has slowed me down the most is the price of petrol, I now aim for economy on the long highway trips rather than trying to overtake every car I come across.

The price of fuel has more of an impact on the way I drive then the cost of speeding fines.

What about tyres, some of the mag wheels on hoon cars contain some expensive rubber, but they don't seem to care for the $$$$ they shred onto the bitumen doing their stupid burnouts and donuts.

Very few similarities as the 4WD argument relates to personal choice alone, and speed limiting relates to preventing vehicles from functioning illegally. There are plenty of public roads in Australia where you need a 4WD, but no public roads where you can do over 130km/h.

My point exactly. Why in such a nationally regulated industry, are cars allowed to come out of the factory or off the docks capable of doing double the maximum legal speed limit? The idea of owning a vehicle capable of 200km/h+ feeds the attitude problem vnx205 referred to encouraging people push down harder on the pedal just to see "what she's capable of" and show it off to their mates before wrapping it around a tree or another motorist.

Go Karting!