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View Poll Results: What should the punishment be?
Crush the offenders car 16 22.86%
Impound car 14 20.00%
Heaver fines, "no pay no car". 22 31.43%
lengthy prison sentences 11 15.71%
Weekend detention 14 20.00%
Speed limit, bretho Modifications 11 15.71%
Community service, helping victims 28 40.00%
Community service, cleaning up accident sites 22 31.43%
Reparations to victims by offender 22 31.43%
Let the Army use the car for range practices 19 27.14%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 70. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 19th January 2010, 07:11 PM
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bring back public floggings and stonings i say
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Old 20th January 2010, 05:31 AM
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So when I didn't know I had epilepsy, had an accident and ran off the road and hit someone I should have ended up in jail? I didn't kill anyone but went damn near close.

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Ran off M2 heading west just after the toll plaza where it kinks left then right. Passed out due to seizure) and didn't turn right ran straight into the back of two cyclists. Now 2 years earlier I had another pedestrian run out in front of me and he was hit. He admitted so in courts and I lost license for 12mths. I had family doctor of 35+ years, 3 neurologists and RTA medicine and driving specialists all say that I couldn't have known that it would happen and I didn't have a history.

1 year and $50-K in lawyers later I am still guilty of dangerous driving occasioning grievous bodily harm, which while I couldn't have known it would happen I did hit them and do considerable damage. Fortunately it was in a "between rover" phase or they'd defiantly be 6' under. What I really objected to was them trying to get me for 16 counts of "obtain benefit by deception (legal speak for fraud) because I didn't tick the box on my previous license applications stating I had a history of blackouts, seizures and fits.One count per application I had put in over the years. The judge decided that was too much and brought it down to one.

So end result, 2 year good behavior bond, 2 years (200 hours in the end) community service and 3 years no license. AND to boot I could no longer qualify to keep my job as a commercial diver as I couldn't pass the medical required to do the course, let alone the annual medical required to keep the certification. So there went my quite considerable income and only real qualification.


Sp please consider that while there are those who do do the wrong thing. The law exists to lay blame on someone. There isn't a provision for something being an "accident"
Wow, that really sucks. I am so sorry to hear that. Perhaps some folks around here can help you get your life back in order.

I do not want to make comment on a public forum about what I thought about the case and the effectiveness of your legal representation. This is too sensitive I think.

But I would add that this is why judges, when passing down sentences, have gradations that they work to. There are those instances where the perpetrator is in a position where they could not help what they were doing and it is up to the legal counsel to argue their client's case effectively. Having spoken to one or two judges they get frustrated when lawyers do not adequately defend their cases.

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Old 20th January 2010, 07:19 AM
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No option for leaving things alone and focussing on enforcing current laws which would have greater benefit......
Death by hanging for 3KM/H over the speed limit would have little effect if it was not enforced.

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Old 20th January 2010, 05:47 PM
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Yeah, sux to be me but that was 5 years ago now and it was easy to keep to a good behaviour bond when you can't drive or really get out anywhere.

As for life back in order, I'm back in a Landie so it's a start. Just need to get over the liner issue it had on Sunday. Good home available for 4 or 4.6l v8.
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I'm for crushing the cars of people who drive with foglights on when it anit foggy
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I'm for crushing the cars of people who drive with foglights on when it anit foggy
Yes those high intensity red fog lights on cheap Korean cars. I'd be for exterminating the drivers, the word would soon get around.

I note that extermination was not a choice on this poll. We are just getting too soft.
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Old 21st January 2010, 05:36 AM
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Yeah, sux to be me but that was 5 years ago now and it was easy to keep to a good behaviour bond when you can't drive or really get out anywhere.

As for life back in order, I'm back in a Landie so it's a start. Just need to get over the liner issue it had on Sunday. Good home available for 4 or 4.6l v8.
Glad to hear it. Takes time.
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Old 21st January 2010, 05:37 AM
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Yes those high intensity red fog lights on cheap Korean cars. I'd be for exterminating the drivers, the word would soon get around.
You assume there's some smarts there. There ain't, that's why the fog lights are on.
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Old 21st January 2010, 07:38 AM
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I note that extermination was not a choice on this poll. We are just getting too soft.
Tick Army targets, they give them a chance too by letting them run zig-zags, serpentine serpentine.
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Old 21st January 2010, 09:40 AM
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Problem with the lights is they are sometimes classes as "daytime running lights" so they come on with ignition. They the rice boys decide they are underpowered as they won't light up the road in daylight so stick 130w globes in then wonder why their alternator won't keep up.
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