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View Poll Results: What should the punishment be?
Crush the offenders car 16 22.86%
Impound car 14 20.00%
Heaver fines, "no pay no car". 22 31.43%
lengthy prison sentences 11 15.71%
Weekend detention 14 20.00%
Speed limit, bretho Modifications 11 15.71%
Community service, helping victims 28 40.00%
Community service, cleaning up accident sites 22 31.43%
Reparations to victims by offender 22 31.43%
Let the Army use the car for range practices 19 27.14%
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Old 21st January 2010, 10:06 AM
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Day time runing lights havent heard that one, in NSW you are allowed 4 white forward facing lights at low beam thats parkers and low beam head lights anything else is illegal use em for target practice
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Old 21st January 2010, 11:13 AM
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DRLs came into being thanks to Volvo. If you look at an older Volvo (think 244/5) you will see that it appears to have the parking lights on all the time that it is driving. In fact they have a dual wattage globe in the front park light, giving (from memory) 21 watts in the DRL position and 5 watts when set to park / headlights.

Audi are now using LED DRLs in their current range and HSV have started doing so as well.

I don't think the lights mounted below the bumper line (with a 55 watt globe and a highly polished reflector) could ever be called DRLs. They are fog lights or driving lights.
Fog lights are to be used in conjunction with park lights (not low beam) and only in times of poor visibility (heavy rain, fog, smoke, etc).
Driving lights are to come on with high beam only.
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Old 21st January 2010, 11:21 AM
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The best way to get through to hoons seems to be to take away their car. Heavier fines are also good. Suspending licences means nothing to alot of people who will continue to drive without one.
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Old 21st January 2010, 12:32 PM
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G'day all,

How should some one be punished for violating common road law?
Obviously every situation has different mitigating circumstances but how far should it go?

Voting is multiple choice and anonymous.

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i voted for weekend detention because that is generally when these dickheads are out on the road.
anyway this is what i think,
crush there car=waste of money not for them but society
impound car=not a bad idea but i still dont think that will stop them
heavy fines=i think and know alot of the people that do it and have gotten these heavy fines it hasnt stopped them because most of them come from rich families(just from what i have noticed)
speed limit mods=i honestly dont think they will stick to these
the others i think community service is a good idea but just not what was sugested with them depending who was with them though i suppose

lengthy prison sentences=this wont help them get there life on track and they wil probably continue to be a dh
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6 months ago i would have typed a different reply, but now i have had 4 months on the other side of the fence enforcing these laws.

Granted some people may lower the foot and the speed might creep up and they arent aware. Having said that if they arent concentrating on their speed what else arent they concentrating on. On the other side of the coin driving through the blue mountains from lithgow to Penrith on the Great Western Highway is a horrible place to keep up with what the speed limit is. It changes so often its not funny. Most often you just end up going with the flow and travelling at what ever speed those around you are travelling at.

Also, i dont know how it works in other states but in NSW when someone has a large amount of unpaid fines because of frequent traffic offences the courts dont wipe the bill when they have been unable to pay it for a set time, they cancel their licence and they dont get it back until the fines are paid in full. If they continue to drive whilst their licence is cancelled they get a gaol term.

Drink driving is one of those things that IMHO needs far more harsh penalties. We picked a guy up the other night who blew 0.205 on the side of the road. He had never held a licence yet is marked on our system as a habitual offender, and had already served 6 months in prison for similar offences. What is the point of cancelling someones licence or disqualifying them from driving if they are going to do it anyway. The only way to stop them driving in this case is to lock them up and it should be done.
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DRLs came into being thanks to Volvo. If you look at an older Volvo (think 244/5) you will see that it appears to have the parking lights on all the time that it is driving. In fact they have a dual wattage globe in the front park light, giving (from memory) 21 watts in the DRL position and 5 watts when set to park / headlights.

Audi are now using LED DRLs in their current range and HSV have started doing so as well.

Add to this list that some DRL's use the high beam circuit/bulb that run at about 60% strength. This is achieved by using a relay/resistor in the circuit.

Also D2's have DRL's and these can be set to use via a Nanocom. They use the low beam circuit and run headlights only at full strength.

I wait for the day when the boys pull me up to inform that the tail & number plate lights are not working even though the headlights are on.

But thats never going to happen...they don't do that anymore
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mmm i think they should crush the car, that the driver was driving at the time even if it is not his. Who ever it belongs to it will get crush and the kid/ driver will have to explain to their parnets, company or Hire company or who ever the car belong to, why their car has been crushed.

Would make them think twice when they owe $30 grand for a car that they got crushed and their company or parents want/ need that money back
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I had a discussion with one particular tosspot who loved driving with their foglights on.
"Ther're DRL's, not Foglights" he said.
Grabbed his owners manual from the glovebox and looked up the relevant page and there it was, FOGLIGHTS.
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Would make them think twice when they owe $30 grand for a car that they got crushed and their company or parents want/ need that money back
what makes you think people wont try to run from the cops the moment they face being in debt for a car some bleating heart got crushed?
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We all look to the govt to give us the answers but they will never keep everyone happy, just have to do what keeps most people in line.There will always be nuts no matter what the law is you cant legislate against stupidity or inexperience
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