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    Quote Originally Posted by rar110 View Post
    Mate it did on mine. I sealed it up with cotton re-enforced tape.
    Interesting, was that only with the snorkel side window open or all the time?

    The only thing I could see to cause that is engine noise breaking into the filter box and traveling up the snorkel pipe. I'd only expect this to be a problem if both the snorkel and all the underbonnet plumbing are made of metal (with only a few silicone or rubber joints). And then, I can only see it being a problem with the snorkel side window open. If you have a plastic snorkel or any flexduct uder the bonnet, I wouldn't expect it to be a problem (or should I say I don't understand how it could be a problem).

    I'd be interested to know what your setup is.

    Cheers

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    Cool

    I've utilised some reduction tubing and an old baby bottle which is shatterproof, heat resistant and transparent. This allows me an easy visual check when the bonnet is up (which is virtually never, and definately never in public). I believe the ADF have a similar setup which probably cost megabucks. I never did trust the old dust extractor to be secure when I'm up to the doors. The whole system is now completely watertight including the canister lid. I know, it's been up to there, and further!.
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    For What its worth, i had to remove the dust ejection port on the aircleaner housing in order to move the housing well across to the right to allow a proper hose set up between the turbo and the aircleaner (engine is a 4BD1T). During the last 14 months the vehicle has done 80000+ks in the outboack in very dusty conditions (dust-storms, very heavy bull-dust, etc etc) without any dust build up [roblems at all.

    I have thought of re-instating the dust port but have not yet got to it. I do have a 3 inch in-line water separator (of my own manufacture) fitted between the snorkle and the air-cleaner which seems to get rid of some of the heavier dust as well.

    C H T

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    Quote Originally Posted by Offender90 View Post
    Interesting, was that only with the snorkel side window open or all the time?

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    I'd be interested to know what your setup is.

    Cheers
    I don't have a snorkel yet. The intake on the canister is on the same end of the canister as original, just rotated around. As the canister is flipped the canister intake is now on the passenger side. So the intake hose goes under the 90 degree bend (to the turbo) and along the passenger side guard. I plan to route it back to the driver side and to a snorkel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1103.9TDI View Post
    I've utilised some reduction tubing and an old baby bottle which is shatterproof, heat resistant and transparent. This allows me an easy visual check when the bonnet is up (which is virtually never, and definately never in public). I believe the ADF have a similar setup which probably cost megabucks. I never did trust the old dust extractor to be secure when I'm up to the doors. The whole system is now completely watertight including the canister lid. I know, it's been up to there, and further!.

    Great set up Gerry. What does it reduce to. I don't think we have any baby bottles anymore. Does dust accumulate in the bottle?

    Its a bit nerve when the water covers the bonnet.
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    Perentie 110 wagon ARN 48-699 another project
    Track Trailer ARN 200-117
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    Reducing from the normal dust outlet diameter (I think about 75mm?) to the baby bottle (48mm??). It has collected some debri, about 40ml (yes it has a level) over the last 6 months of dry weather. I do check the level on a regular basis, and John is correct, even with a ram snorkle head in heavy rain, very little moisture is accumulated in the apenage. The rest of the system, leading into the air filter canister, is a mix of 75mm aluminium tubing and silicon tube. I don't trust flexiduct as the engine vibration wears holes through it easily and very quickly.
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    NB.....When my Landy was NA, I was worried about water ingestion via the dust valve, so I blocked it up, basically welding a cap over the hole. When we came to remove it during the engine swap some months later, we found moisture had caused rust to develop inside the canister and apenage. The car had been used month on month off as per my work requirements, but I thought it would definately become an issue over time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rar110 View Post
    Col I hope you don't mind me hijacking this thread a bit.
    Not at all Pete, your asking the question I was thinking!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Offender90 View Post
    Peter,

    IMHO, the opening would nave no impact on cabin noise. That said, I'd also prefer not to modify my housing, if I don't have to.

    Cheers

    Bojan
    Mine has a big impact on noise. I didn't have a duck bill fitted and when I finally put one on the noise reduction was significant

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    Quote Originally Posted by C H T View Post
    For What its worth, i had to remove the dust ejection port on the aircleaner housing in order to move the housing well across to the right to allow a proper hose set up between the turbo and the aircleaner (engine is a 4BD1T). During the last 14 months the vehicle has done 80000+ks in the outboack in very dusty conditions (dust-storms, very heavy bull-dust, etc etc) without any dust build up [roblems at all.

    I have thought of re-instating the dust port but have not yet got to it. I do have a 3 inch in-line water separator (of my own manufacture) fitted between the snorkle and the air-cleaner which seems to get rid of some of the heavier dust as well.

    C H T
    When you say "i had to remove the dust ejection port" did you leave an open hole where the duck bill was, or did you blank the hole off.

    If the hole was blanked off and you had no dust accumulate after 80000 km of dusty condition, I would be concerned by why the 1st stage pre- clean section of the filter is not working.

    Donaldson make several variations, and I'm not that familiar with the one used on Land Rover. The similar FRG air cleaner from Donaldson is designed to remove 85% of dust particles in the 1st stage (pre-clean) stage.

    I'm worried that the modifications being discussed, may have compromised this vital function. It seems like not just the duck bill, but the design of the pre-cleaner section (air flow paths etc.) may be upset.

    Donaldson make great air cleaners, but the success of their designs depends on the various parts working together.

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