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    My D3 hates Towing

    After investing in a new engine last year and getting 10k on the clock before towing then a round trip from West Sydney to Melb with 3.3 ton 27ft caravan in tow without a hick-up we now find ourselves half way to QLD with 2 separate episodes of limp mode. 1st one after 150k then it went away overnight then the next day after 250k. wrecked our holiday as heading home. too dangerous on busy highways, I have posted the exact fault codes and please excuse any bad spelling.
    Hopefully the dealer workshop at Tamworth has a magic wand otherwise it will get sold. Fed up....

    FAULT 1 OF 12
    ECU: Instrument Pack
    CODE:U0132
    Lost communication with ride level ctrl module / Lost communication with suspension ctrl module A

    (INTERMITTENT)FAULT 2 OF 12
    ECU: Instrument Pack
    CODE:U0184
    Lost communication with audio unit
    (PERMANENT)

    FAULT 3 OF 12
    ECU: Engine Management
    CODE:P2299
    Brake pedal position/accelerator pedal position incompatible
    (INTERMITTENT)

    FAULT 4 OF 12
    ECU: Engine Management
    CODE:P000E
    Fuel volume regulator control exceeded learning limit
    (INTERMITTENT)

    FAULT 5 OF 12
    ECU: Engine Management
    CODE:P0087
    Fuel rail/system pressure - too low
    (INTERMITTENT)

    FAULT 6 OF 12
    ECU: Automatic Gearbox
    CODE:U2023
    Control module network signal calibration data
    (INTERMITTENT)

    FAULT 7 OF 12
    ECU: Parking Brake
    CODE:U0100
    Lost communication with engine control module/powertrain control module 'A'
    (INTERMITTENT)

    FAULT 8 OF 12
    ECU: Ride Level
    CODE:U0416
    Invalid data received from vehicle dynamics control module
    (PENDING)

    FAULT 9 OF 12
    ECU: ABS system
    CODE:U0401
    Invalid data received from engine control module/powertrain control module
    (HISTORIC)

    FAULT 10 OF 12
    ECU: All Terrain Control
    CODE:U0401
    Invalid data received from engine control module/powertrain control module
    (PENDING)

    FAULT 11 OF 12
    ECU: All Terrain Control
    CODE:U0402
    Invalid data received from transmission control module
    (PENDING)

    FAULT 12 OF 12
    ECU: All Terrain Control
    CODE:U0416
    Invalid data received from vehicle dynamics control module
    (PENDING)
    Last edited by DonDownunder; 28th May 2016 at 01:05 PM. Reason: added data

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    Heck your battery post is tight - the Negative one...

    Also check you have the latest software revisions.

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    Also check that there are no CAN bus connection issues or shorts. Brake switch also might be worth looking too at based on one of those messages (the standard go to solution for cascading errors). Also check your tail lights etc for any dodgy globes, they have been known to cause these sorts of issues when a filament fails and causes intermittent connections (go to LED globes if you can, ~Rich~ has done this I think).
    Cheers,

    Sean

    “Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.” - Albert Einstein

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    I'm just rereading the list and brake switch/globe look like a potential contender..

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    Don do you have a chip on the engine? (not a remap).
    If so then the following might be of interest. I had some similar fault codes with limp mode triggered by towing ~1600kg hybrid camper with the engine chipped on my previous D3 (2.7L TDV6)

    P000E-22:FUEL VOLUME REGULATOR CONTROL EXCEEDED LEARNING LIMIT : SIGNAL AMPLITUDE>MAXIMUM
    P00087-00: FUEL RAIL/SYSTEM PRESSURE- TOO LOW
    P2299-68:BRAKE PEDAL POSITION/ACCELERATOR PEDAL POSITION INCOMPATIBLE: EVENT INFORMATION

    It happened 2-3 times whilst towing under load (up long steep freeway climbs) Removing the chip (or turning it off) whilst towing solved the problem for me. I sold my D3 to a mate and advised him against putting the chip back on if towing. He decided to give it a go anyway and the same thing (Limp mode triggered) happened to him 4 times driving back from Alice Springs to Adelaide! He's since taken it off with no further issues. Regards, David
    Defender MY21 D300 SE: Off Road Pack,Explorer Pack, OEM Bull Bar, GME XRS, Tow Pro Elite, Ironman winch, spotlights & light bar, front undershield, Tough Ant 18" brake conversion kit: BFG K02 LT265/70/18

    Gone: Fuji White MY14 HSE; Silver D3 MY09 TDV6 SE

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    Chips belong with Fish and Vinegar..

    Only remapping should be done on these engines... And then only by very reputable tuners.

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    Yes agreed Tombie! This happened in 2011 and I learned the hard way! I would never use one again. David
    Defender MY21 D300 SE: Off Road Pack,Explorer Pack, OEM Bull Bar, GME XRS, Tow Pro Elite, Ironman winch, spotlights & light bar, front undershield, Tough Ant 18" brake conversion kit: BFG K02 LT265/70/18

    Gone: Fuji White MY14 HSE; Silver D3 MY09 TDV6 SE

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    Where would I find the Chip D3

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue C View Post
    Don do you have a chip on the engine? (not a remap).
    If so then the following might be of interest. I had some similar fault codes with limp mode triggered by towing ~1600kg hybrid camper with the engine chipped on my previous D3 (2.7L TDV6)

    P000E-22:FUEL VOLUME REGULATOR CONTROL EXCEEDED LEARNING LIMIT : SIGNAL AMPLITUDE>MAXIMUM
    P00087-00: FUEL RAIL/SYSTEM PRESSURE- TOO LOW
    P2299-68:BRAKE PEDAL POSITION/ACCELERATOR PEDAL POSITION INCOMPATIBLE: EVENT INFORMATION

    It happened 2-3 times whilst towing under load (up long steep freeway climbs) Removing the chip (or turning it off) whilst towing solved the problem for me. I sold my D3 to a mate and advised him against putting the chip back on if towing. He decided to give it a go anyway and the same thing (Limp mode triggered) happened to him 4 times driving back from Alice Springs to Adelaide! He's since taken it off with no further issues. Regards, David
    David I bought the D3 2nd hand and it has lots of a/market extras. It goes like a rocket and no problems towing the cvan up hills. If it is chipped where would I find it and what does it look like. Is it in a "Plug & Play" harness?? cheers Don

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    Yes it is "plug and play"! Depending on the model it will consist of a wiring harness attached to a small plastic module likely to be mounted near the starting battery (mine was actually inside the battery compartment wedged between the battery and front edge of the plastic box so check in there or just in front of it). The wiring harness will lead to a "T" junction that consists of the original engine plug joined to one end of the harness and the other side of the 'T' goes to the plug on the side of the engine near the common fuel rail - either towards the front left side if a late model D3 or at the back if early model D3.You need to take the plastic engine cover off first though to see this area. I can send more detailed instructions and photos as a pdf file if you PM me. Also if you take close up photos of the passenger side of engine with plastic cover off I could probably tell you if you have a chip fitted. Hope that helps.
    Defender MY21 D300 SE: Off Road Pack,Explorer Pack, OEM Bull Bar, GME XRS, Tow Pro Elite, Ironman winch, spotlights & light bar, front undershield, Tough Ant 18" brake conversion kit: BFG K02 LT265/70/18

    Gone: Fuji White MY14 HSE; Silver D3 MY09 TDV6 SE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue C View Post
    Yes it is "plug and play"! Depending on the model it will consist of a wiring harness attached to a small plastic module likely to be mounted near the starting battery (mine was actually inside the battery compartment wedged between the battery and front edge of the plastic box so check in there or just in front of it). The wiring harness will lead to a "T" junction that consists of the original engine plug joined to one end of the harness and the other side of the 'T' goes to the plug on the side of the engine near the common fuel rail - either towards the front left side if a late model D3 or at the back if early model D3.You need to take the plastic engine cover off first though to see this area. I can send more detailed instructions and photos as a pdf file if you PM me. Also if you take close up photos of the passenger side of engine with plastic cover off I could probably tell you if you have a chip fitted. Hope that helps.
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