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Thread: P38 DIY wheel alignment.

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    P38 DIY wheel alignment.

    I've been noticing a slight pull to the left while driving, it's not bad, but I would like to get it sorted.
    On my classic Rangie I had a length of wood with a screw in both ends, was able to measure the toe in/out by placing it at front and rear of the rims.
    Is this possible on the P38 as well?
    The only adjustment is toe in/out, and is adjusted on the track rod.
    Has anyone used this method successfully?
    Or would I be better off just going to a proper place to have it done?
    I've also seen laser kits on ebay that might be worth looking into, would be interested to hear if anyone has tried these.
    Thanks, Pete.

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    Toe in/out has no effect on a car pulling. This is caused by caster which in your case is not adjustable.

    I would suggest that your pulling might be caused by tyres. Try swapping left to right.

    Have you also tested it on a very flat road as a lot of roads have a camber on them, which will cause a car to want to veer left.
    Dave.

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    Thanks Dave, interesting, didn't know pulling was not toe in/out.
    I had the same thought about the angle of the road surface, but it does seem to do it on most roads. I'll try driving on a flat surface tomorrow and see what that does.
    I'll try swapping the wheels over, does changing the direction of the tyre rotation have any ill effect on the tyres?

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    Some tyres are directional. They usually have an arrow or something to determine direction.

    I have never seen these on a 4x4 though.

    The reason toe in/out won't cause pulling is that the toe is always equal on both wheels.

    You can adjust just one side only but when you drive they will both point straight ahead, just your steering wheel will be off centre.

    Whereas on a car that has adjustable caster, each side can be individually adjusted to different settings.

    In the old days on Falcons sometimes after an alignment it might still pull a tad. I would take a spanner on the test drive and it was easy to adjust caster on the side of the road.
    Dave.

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    Could be worn ball joints. Mine is doing the same and has also become a little vague in the steering dept. A good poke around revealed worn ball joints.

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    The upper ball joints were replaced a couple of years ago, the lower ones were fine, but I'll check them on the weekend, thanks for the suggestion poleonpom.

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    Mate

    You can pretty easily check your toe in/out with the chalk and string method there are plenty of videos on how to do it.

    But it won't stop drifting or pulling to one side as has been said

    Steve

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    Hi Pete it's caster issue. Normally if you drive in the rh lane on a freeway which drains to the median strip the road camber will normally cause the vehicle to slightly veer to the right..

    Re. Laser measuring devices for toe-in.... i have used a TrackAce. It's very good
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    Have you checked the tyre pressures? As mentioned, there are so many things which can cause the steering to pull. It could even be a flexi brake hose starting to collapse and hold the brake on slightly. If your tyres are wearing even then your alignment is probably ok. I haven't been on the tools for years now, but have done many alignments, with lots of different methods, including setting up race cars, now a days I just do mine by eye, I know it is not accurate, but I haven't had a set of tyres wear for quiet a few years. I would be checking over every thing, no matter how silly it may seem if you are concerned about it. Try to see if it pulls on certain roads, under acceleration, if it drifts the other way when you ease off. You may be able to narrow down your search.

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    The link arm doesnt need very much free play to cause a problem.
    Nor does free play on the steering arm off the power steer unit.
    Minimal movement has caused me to feel the RR is not tracking well.
    It is actually fairly hard to see the slop its much easier to feel it as some one rocks the steering wheel for you.
    The link arm seems to be a hit and miss replacement I have had less than 10,000km out of some and others have lasted 80,000km......variable quality of parts?

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