Pictures?
What has happened to your others you techo?
Couldn't decide whether to post this in the Communications or GPS forums... decided that it was a P38A specific topic so put it here instead.
After playing with a few combinations of car stereos and GPS units, including a $500 all-in-one unit from eBay I think I've finally found something that I'll be happy with for a while.
Kenwood KVT-534DVD single DIN unit with:
KNA-G431 Sat Nav option (Garmin)
KCA-BT200 Buetooth kit - on backorder, will be here in next couple of days
KCA-IP301V iPod audio/video cable
(I gave the analogue TV tuner a miss)
Why this combination?
The head unit does all the normal stuff you'd expect - radio, CD audio and MP3/WMA, DVD and DivX
7" touch screen can be set to stay open when powered off. Helps to save the motor. Closes at the touch of a button if you're parking somewhere dodgy.
Screen is Z-action... slides all the way out and then tilts up from the front, and then slides back to user defined position... but still not enough room to let me reinstall the cup holders
Built-in USB cable for FAT/FAT32 formatted USB drives. Cable lives in the glove-box, out of sight.
Same USB cable powers the iPod cable, which also has seperate audio and video cables, in the glove-box.
GPS unit is mounted inside the glove-box to enable access to mini-USB port and remove SD-card
GPS antennae is magnetic and mounted in roof.
GPS operates ok while radio or other sound source is running![]()
Bluetooth supports phone as well as audio gateway (will test when it arrives)... hopefully will work properly with my Crackberry
Main unit can set it's time from GPS.
Reverse Camera just plugs in, automatically switches when reverse is engaged, and the music doesn't stop
Buttons and screen are colour adjustable (I chose green to match dash)
Main screen
iPod playing with album art
one of my favourite DVD's
Cabin view
P38A specific stuff:
It is a tight fit to get all those cables shoved in behind the head deck, so I removed the HVAC unit to make it easier to guide the cables in to the small space at the rear of the unit.
Removed the glove box and cut a 3x1cm cut out at the top rear of the tray to feed the glove box cables (USB, iPod and Sat Nav).
Sat Nav base unit secured to rear of glove-box tray by two 5mm bolts, leaving access for USB and SD-card.
Removed the LH centre panel to ease guiding of cables from rear of head deck to glove box.
Popped of LH A pillar trim to run GPS antenna wire up to headlining, secured with tape. Easy to run antenna wire down side of pillar and in to dash by peeling back front LH door rubber and feeding through hole to glove-box (removed).
Excess wiring was looped and cable tied to support strut at top/front of dash.
Still don't know that grey wire on the ISO-style plug does. Illumination control works, external telephone mute not required, no power antennae or remote amp/sub (this is a "pov pack" RR), no steering wheel controls.
Will update this post when I get the bluetooth unit installed.
Hey, at least this will drown out the sound of the noisy tappets
cheers
Paul.
My toys, projects and write-ups at PaulP38a.com
Pictures?
What has happened to your others you techo?
The pics in the first post are the only ones I took. Can you not see them? Unlike some of my other "projects" I didn't document the install of this one as I figured it was a bit too specific.
The original JVC unit ended up in my son's car until he can afford a MP3/iPod unit for it.
My JVC DVD/iPod unit has been relocated to the Astra - now my "other" car.
The $500 eBay all-in-one GPS unit is now sitting in the garage without a home. Tried to fit it in my son's EF Fairmont, but the shape of the dash stops the screen from opening properly.
Cheers, Paul.
My toys, projects and write-ups at PaulP38a.com
what this, what's this.... a P38 "block upgrade"
...lots of new electronics on a faithful (faith-filled?!" platform? ...
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Last edited by Hoges; 26th October 2009 at 10:49 PM. Reason: typppos
Devised a way of getting the eBay all-in-one in to the EF Fairmont Ghia tonight... simply don't push the unit all the way in... it sits about 2cm out of the dash and is secured at the sides by brackets that screw in to the unit itself and then anti-theft screws in the the dash behind the double DIN shroud. When the screen open out it just touches the soft dash of the car.
That's my bit done... the boy can pull the dash apart to route the GPS and TV antennae where he wants them.
Now it's the "orignal" JVC head deck, which was in the Rangie when I bought it from Hardy, that is without a home.
Cheers, Paul.
My toys, projects and write-ups at PaulP38a.com
pics didn't come up before but are there now!
NICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey Paul, any updates on this now you've been using it for a while? Likes/dislikes etc
On a scale of 1 to 10 with 10 being "brilliant", I'd give it an 8.
Easiest to list the dislikes and annoyances first:
- the screen remembers its tilt position, but after engaging reverse it adjusts slightly and does not go back to the saved position
- it takes about 10 seconds to switch on, and about another 10 for the GPS to fire up.
- I have not found a way to disable the "safety warning" message each time the GPS boots up. I haven't actually read the message in full but I think it's the usual butt-covering rubbish that says something like "don't use the GPS while driving".
- if you sit listening to the radio/whatever with the ignition in the Accessory position, and then start the car, it resets the GPS "safety warning" message.
- the GPS module alone cost around $800 and the display is pretty chunky compared to modern stand-alone units. 3D view is a bit misleading and the zoom level never seems quite right.
- GPS cannot read SD cards greater than 2GB
- GPS speed/camera/navigation alerts mute the music... although it is configured to only use the front/right speaker.
- the bluetooth module connects ok to my Blackberry Bold and sucks down the address book each time, but I can't read or compose SMS messages... I didn't expect it to synch my Blackberry email too, but that would be a nice touch
- bluetooth hands-free distorts and sounds tinny while driving. I may be able to adjust this, but have gone back to using the earpiece until I can be bothered to fiddle.
- iPod module does not always connect properly. Sometimes I have to physically disconnect the iPod from the cable and reconnect before it will read. I am using the same 3rd/4th Gen 30GB iPod as I had on the JVC unit and never had this problem.
- To play music from a USB memory stick, the iPod connector has to be disconnected. Why not just supply a Y-cable instead? The Source Select screen already decides whether it is a iPod or USB stick...
Likes:
- it looks inconspicuous when the screen is retracted.
- with the screen out, I can still access stuff in the tray abover the stereo... but alas, my cup-holders no longer fit.
- sound quality is good (but I think my old JVC sounded better).
- GPS module can be tweaked with custom POI (point of interest) and keeps a bread trail of where you've been. Makes for interesting dot maps all over Canberra and Queanbeyan, especially as it extrapolates from last point (parked, ignition off) to point of acquiring satellites... shows trails through centres of buildings, houses and parks that I don't recall driving through
- everything else works nicely.
So the list of "annoyances" is longer the list of "Likes"... it is still a very good unit.
Would I buy it again? Dunno... I bought the JVC KDAVX2 DVD/iPod unit about 3 years ago for $1000 and it has performed flawlessy, but does not have GPS and bluetooth.
The Kenwood system cost around $2000 in October 2009. I'm not sure that the extra $1000 for the 7" retractable touch screen, GPS and bluetooth is really worth it, but I will hang on to it until I find something better, such as a unit that has all the features of this one plus...
- display and input for a laptop/CarPC
- built-in hard drive for keeping favourite music and reference documents (e.g. PDF and HTML pages of common Rangie problems and fixes)
- WiFi to synch above files with home network, avoiding the USB stick/SD card shuffle
- built-in browser to take advantage of WiFi hotspots when stopped in traffic or other situations where this could be useful
- multiple camera inputs for "essential" off-road and city parking situations such as "diff-cam", "bull-bar cam" and "@#$%-that's-close-cam"
- a packet of Tim Tams that never runs out
Cheers, Paul.
My toys, projects and write-ups at PaulP38a.com
Thanks Paul good read, I am looking at the Kenwood KOSL702(in dash). Its a toss up really between the unit you purchased and the KOS. If I go down the KOS road though I will need to hack the dash to get it in, I have purchased a spare dash which I will use to fit the screen into. I have also been looking at the JVC indash screen as it seems the bezel around the screen is smaller which should allow me too fit it easier.
Oh could you post some pics of the GPS in action please?
Good luck with the install Aussie. I've been toying with the idea of an in-dash screen too, and got a second console to play with, plus a 7" touch screen but have given up on the idea for the time being. The 7" screen has come in handy as a monitor for the security cameras at home though
I'll be watching your install with interest if you proceed with it. If you haven't already taken the centre dash section out, here are a couple of pics of what to expect...
Showing the clearance (lack of) at the top
with my old JVC stereo in place... not a lot of room for a monitor without chopping stuff
As requested, here are some pics of the Kenwood/Garmin GPS in action...
the annoying warning screen
GPS main menu
Navigation screen - large info boxes selected
after tapping the map view
"trip computer" screen... the digit behind the yellow box is a number between 0 and 9
Tools screen
GPS Info
Data tools - this is pretty cool
Settings
the white dashes are "bread crumbs"
I don't generally drive across the park or through my neighbour's properties as this map indictaes
Just a pic of the Tuner screen with the "RR Generations" wallpaper
and the bluetooth "hands free" screen... funnily enough the phone was connected at the time despite the "disconnected" status... another bug!
Cheers, Paul.
My toys, projects and write-ups at PaulP38a.com
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