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Old 14th October 2008, 09:27 AM
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Mk 3 modified tipper

Chassis No 1177,
Census 6069B May 65

I bought this from Holbook Scrap Metal, I am unsure what to do with it, look around for a tray and restore to original or leave as is.


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At this stage I can't say for sure, but only one Mk.3 tipper was made by the factory, so if that is 'the one' then it is a rare piece of automotive history.

This is a photo of the unit that i'm talking about. I've not yet gotten far enough through the Mk.3 ARN's to find out what your rego number was to see if it is the same vehicle yet.



it does look very very similar however. definitely restore it!
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G'day Phoenix

That pic of 170-566 looks like it was taken at Bandi Museum, going by the 40/41 Ford in the background, and on that vehicle the tipper side -to -floor is a square fold, whereas the tipper pictures by dkg000 has curved side-to-floor profile, I think it may be a Teaspoon Tipper body fitted to a Mk3, also it has smooth sides and not the ribbed sides of 170-566, if so it would be a little bit of a RARIE, the shape of the rear body gives the impression of Teaspoon, it could be that from this build-up that the F2 was conceived note also the rear mudguard configeration, with the longer side forward, possible for the rear tipper body hinge clearance.

Doubt it is an F2 body retro fitted to a Mk3.


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these are certainly popping up lately... maybe should change the name to Registry of Ex-Military Land Rovers & Internationals
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That's why we have an inter chapter Josh

the one that has appeared does have some ribbing, but you are right about the floor profile Kevin.

Also, the distance from cab to tray is different.

Still, rare all the same.
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Chassis No 1177,
Census 6069B May 65

I bought this from Holbook Scrap Metal, I am unsure what to do with it, look around for a tray and restore to original or leave as is.


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Its a Mk3 with a F2 body fitted post service life The photo of the Mk3 170566 is taken at the RACT Museum at Pckapunal about 1988-90

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Definitely a post military mod and not a bad one at that. As Hodgo said above, an F2 tray transplanted on to a Mk3 chassis.
When the military was experimenting with tippers in the early developmental stages they stuck with dual tyres (1000x20's) rather than the more common (to the army) 1200x20's.
The early prototypes to the F2 were also fitted with duals rather than singles. This idea was dropped prior to production as it was found to offer no great advantage with the tandem axle setup either traction wise, floatation wise, or deflection wise.
The trays on the teaspoons were a smaller tray than the one pictured and the headboards were a different shape (straight up and angled at the top).
Any Mk 3 is definitely worth restoring but preferably back to its original "trucks cargo 2 1/2 ton GS" specs.
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but i also noticed . . .

170-566 seems to have the early civilian type mudguards with the integral step (this type was used on '61 - '64 early aaco's... guards without the step were used on civilian units from '64 to '67). Maybe the original ones got damaged or were rusty or maybe it was a very early production model that used earlier guards. Of all pics i've seen so far all mk3, 4 and 5 have no step in the guards. Or maybe it was there because of the smaller wheels?
The truck in question looks pretty good as is ! Still looks very good as a tipper whether it's original or not.


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A little bit of trivia

All the early Mk3 had this type of front guard on them they were made of fiberglass and were very prone to braking and were replaced with steel ones with out steeps and the first ones were fitted with fiberglass fuel tanks and all had different steering wheels which use to crack near the hub .

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very interesting...

would be very few of those original front guards left. I think i read somewhere that civillian units also were initially fibreglass then metal. This would make a lot of sense since the retro fitted steel guards on the army units would coincide with the introduction of the stepless steel units on the '64 - '67 civvy AACO's.
My models of the Mk3 will have the stepless guards as that is how they appear in all photographs of them. I noticed also that some seem to have a slight cutout between the front of the guard and the bumper while others do not. Mine will have no cutout but it can be put in by the model assembler if desired.

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