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Old 6th July 2011, 06:49 PM
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Base overhaul on return from SVN.

When you review many of the ARN lists you find comments about replacement chassis. (Also on the Mk3/Mk4 ARN lists etc)

i.e. 112-723 | 24303792A | SA. 'Fitted For Rifle 106mm'. Vietnam service mentioned on this page http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~ihg/Vietnam1.html
Original chassis was (24303769A in ARN lists as 112-721 88 GS)
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112-726 | 24303720A | SA. 'Fitted For Rifle 106mm'. Duplicate Chassis. Original chassis number was 24303792A. Body became 112-727??

Was this that they were lazy on the SA rebuild line and merely fitted the first set of plates to hand or is it something else?

How do we know which ARN was affixed to the chassis when in SVN e.g. could the chassis at my place now known as 112-723 have actually been 112-726 in SVN?
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Old 7th July 2011, 09:14 PM
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Dianna,

I always thought that a chassis change over was done because the original was beyond economical repair and Army wanted to retain the specialist vehicle... so they transplanted all the good bits onto the 'donor'.

I'm not certain if this level of work was done in Vietnam though. I think a vehicle that had been rebuilt to this extent has a little plate on it saying something along the lines of 'grade 2b xx base work shop' and possible the date ??

It's been another long day and my memory went to be an hour ago

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The reasoning behind that notation was actually my interpretation of what I was seeing in a couple of ways.

Primarily, on the ARN lists you would have an arn, chassis number and engine number. In some places (thinking the inters at this stage as I did all of their arn's) the chassis number is crossed out and another one noted. Just the chassis number. Sometimes that change was dated (and noted in the arn lists). Where I can I've listed the most recent chassis in the chassis column, and the original in the notes, however some need changing as they are the other way around.

So we have say vehicle A with chassis 5, later this was crossed out and 113 put in it's place (in some places white out was used so we do not know the original). As no engine or other details changed, I presumed that the vehicle A had a chassis swap. This was reinforced by chassis 5 appearing elsewhere on ARN B as a replacement for its original.

THis is where it gets complicated, there are some chains of chassis moving along, in some places it is one vehicle to another. We also know that early on, it was not uncommon for ARN plates to be swapped on vehicles. members of the forum have attested to having seen it happen (I think thommo was one). However if they stayed that way we do not know, or do we know if that practice continued into, and through, the 70's and later.

Now on some land rovers things can be a little more clear cut in places.

Fire engine A, Chassis 5, sold off in 1983. Chassis replaced with 12 in 1973
GS B, chassis 12, Sold off / off the books / written off in 1974

Reasonably straight forward to see what happened here.

Others are more complicated, but I usually look at them on the case by case basis, especially the landies where I did not do the original ARN listings.

I personally did all of the series 3, 101, 110 and 6x6, haflinger, moke and international ARN's transcribing them from photos of ledgers and other documents.

The series 2 and 2a arn's were done by others, but I have updated, corrected and added to those and the trailers significantly.
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Two things that I have hears from multiple sources is that the Mk3 in particular were so trashed in SVN that almost, if not all of them had a full base overhaul on return to Oz. The fibreglass bonnets and fragile windscreen frames being items that suffered most and the reason that many Mk3 ended up with Mk4 cabs. It would be reasonable to suggest that any Mk3 still with it's original cab, likely didn't go to SVN.

The other item is the "one time repair cost", the military have a dollar figure specified and regularly adjusted for each item of equipment. This dollar figure deternines a decision point for whether the item is kept in the inventory or disposed of. A RAEME mech who worked for a time at 2 base workshops in Moorebank, suggested the silly aspect of the "OTRC" was that a major repair, such as a base overhaul may exceed the OTRC and a vehicle would go to auction immediately after a full overhaul, while a vehicle that was constantly having small repairs for multiple failures, but never went through a base overhaul, may stay in-service years longer than the one that went through a full overhaul.
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