Boge leveller

**Dougal** · 30th August 2010, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by lokka

If i were you and wanted a smother ride id fit twin shocks to the rear it will give the same effect and be alot easyer and cheaper to set up and keep in service .
I will be doing this mod to my 130 county soon as i want the smother ride when both laden and unladen as it is now unladen its ok but i know i can make it better with more dampening

How is overdamping the suspension going to give you a smoother ride?

**Davo** · 30th August 2010, 10:39 AM

I believe in a similar thread it was these guys W.W. Shock Absorbers - Brisbane's original shock absorber reconditioners. 33 Matheson Street, Virginia, Queensland, Australia 4014 who were recommended.

So yes, there are still people who can rebuild these things.

**Bearman** · 30th August 2010, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by incisor

apparently ww shock absorber reconditioners down this way still do them

Thanks for all your help fellas, as Inc and Davo suggested I can get it reconditioned at WW Shock Absorbers in Brisbane for $450. Thats a lot less that $1400 for a new one so I will probably go that way.

**Davo** · 30th August 2010, 11:06 AM

Thanks for posting that. I was wondering how much it was going to cost when I get mine done!

**PhilipA** · 30th August 2010, 11:18 AM

WW Shock Absorbers in Brisbane for $450

Really , I would have LRA do it.

I had experience with WW about 40 years ago when I bought "reconditioned" shocks from them. They were cheap but when I had a good look the shocks had a hole drilled in the top and the oil swapped for heavier oil. It was not worth anything like they charged.

LRA use a guy who lives in Victoria AFAIK and does nothing but rebuild Boges.
AND they are NOT a shock absorber, they are a load leveller.
I bought one 20 years ago ( for $300) now and it performed well.

Regard sPhilip A

**Bearman** · 30th August 2010, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by PhilipA

Really , I would have LRA do it.

I had experience with WW about 40 years ago when I bought "reconditioned" shocks from them. They were cheap but when I had a good look the shocks had a hole drilled in the top and the oil swapped for heavier oil. It was not worth anything like they charged.

LRA use a guy who lives in Victoria AFAIK and does nothing but rebuild Boges.
AND they are NOT a shock absorber, they are a load leveller.
I bought one 20 years ago ( for $300) now and it performed well.

Regard sPhilip A

Any contact details?

**PhilipA** · 30th August 2010, 02:34 PM

Any contact details?

I gave you LRA's.
You can order them through most specialists. AFAIR I ordered mine via Graeme Cooper.
AFAIK the guy doesn't want to deal with the public and so has no website etc.
Regards Philip A

ROMAROVER · 30th August 2010, 03:21 PM

Save your money for other things that will come up just fit defender springs if required for load carrying, must agree the softer county springs where nice ride but mud flaps would nearly touch the road under half load, defender springs bit rough off road, i'll swap my defenders for your smooth county onesnow i no longer carry big loads - boge CARRY OVER SHORT TERM FROM RANGE ROVER GOOD WHILE THEY WORKED, but not necessary except for compliance if there was any inspector alive that knows about them.
cheers.

**landrover dave** · 30th August 2010, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by ROMAROVER

Save your money for other things that will come up just fit defender springs if required for load carrying, must agree the softer county springs where nice ride but mud flaps would nearly touch the road under half load, defender springs bit rough off road, i'll swap my defenders for your smooth county onesnow i no longer carry big loads - boge CARRY OVER SHORT TERM FROM RANGE ROVER GOOD WHILE THEY WORKED, but not necessary except for compliance if there was any inspector alive that knows about them.
cheers.

Boge hydramats work at a preset height. Later Rangies a higher height than earlier. With a suspension lift they are only good as a door stop! The other problom is the vehicle wallows either side of them, this causes the legendary Rover body roll. Discos and Defenders were never fitted with them and dont have the body roll problems of the Rangies and Counties. I have removed them from all my vehicles and most friends and customers cars and fitted heavier rate springs. Disco springs work well in Rangies and I use a heavy duty Defender spring in my County. Every one who has had this done has remarked on the much improved handling with little loss of comfort.

**Dougal** · 30th August 2010, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by landrover dave

Boge hydramats work at a preset height. Later Rangies a higher height than earlier. With a suspension lift they are only good as a door stop! The other problom is the vehicle wallows either side of them, this causes the legendary Rover body roll. Discos and Defenders were never fitted with them and dont have the body roll problems of the Rangies and Counties. I have removed them from all my vehicles and most friends and customers cars and fitted heavier rate springs. Disco springs work well in Rangies and I use a heavy duty Defender spring in my County. Every one who has had this done has remarked on the much improved handling with little loss of comfort.

If you take the self leveller out of a rangie and compensate with stiffer springs then you can get severe oversteer problems. This is why the self-leveller runs on the centre vs one on each side, it doesn't increase the roll-stiffness of the rear end.
The rangies and discos without the self-leveller that I've seen all came factory with swaybars. A big one in the front and a thin one in the rear, this keeps similar front/rear roll stiffness ratios to the self-leveller equipped cars and keeps oversteer in check.

With the longer wheelbase and lower gearing of a county/defender I'm sure the oversteer isn't going to be as much of a problem. But my rangie with stiff springs in the back was vicious enough that I wouldn't let any else drive it. Lowering and softening the rear so the leveller worked bought it back to neutral handling.

Those old poms were smarter than most gave them credit for. Just make sure you understand all of the factors they were dealing with before you start messing with the suspension.
If you have a rangie that flops from one side to the other, pivoting on the rear leveller then you have a spring length issue and/or tweaked radius arms (one higher than the other). Jack up the front centre and rear centre or corner weight the vehicle so you can work out which corners aren't taking the load and swap springs around or use packers to even it out. With the right length springs, there's no flopping involved.

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