Thread: TD5 oil pump failures

OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by incisor
OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!

What he said.

But I note the mechanic only said MAYBE the engine is damaged because of the oil pump failing :?

Just happened to a mate of mine in Albury, not pretty!!!!!! [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif[/img]

I'm almost due for my end of warranty service on my TD5. Holy snappin' aligator shoes! You sure know how to put the wind up a bloke! [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif[/img]

Even though my TD5 has done almost 100,000 kays in 2.5 years, it has been running beautifully. I did have a radiator leak but that is another story and has nothing to do with the engine as such. (Yes, yes, I know it keeps the engine temp in check...!)

I might have to make a mention of this problem when I get it serviced in the next few weeks, so it is at least documented "in the warrany period" to provide me with some ammo should I need it. This is most certainly bad news. I wonder how LR Australia would approach this situation?

The thing is though, if the pump fails and the warning light comes on, if you kill the engine quick smart it is very unlikely that any engine damage will have been sustained. Also, I wonder if the teflon treatments like Slick 50 and the Nulon range will help to stop damage caused by no oil pressure. Many years ago I used to sell Slick 50 and one of our demonstrations was to have a Slick 50 treated Briggs & Stratton engine running without oil for the entire duration of any demonstration. That motor ran for quite a few years without a single drop of oil in it and was still running when I stopped selling the stuff. (I'm not a salesman and selling didn't appeal to me)

I treated my XD Falcon I owned at the time with marked improvements in fuel economy and smoother running. I wonder if the stuff is still on the market?

Having raised the issue I'll tell what I am doing. I need a new sump gasket (who doesn't - after all it is a Land Rover) and while that is being done, the suspect bolt will be removed and re-Loctited with the new and improved oil resistant Loctite 243. Can't afford the replacement bolt - it costs around $1300 and comes with a free oil pump! Another interesting "repair strategy" from LR! Apparently the bolt comes separately in the UK and is supplied with the appropriate Loctite pre-applied. The work will be done by a LR dealer and will take around 4.5 hours, 4 for the sump gasket replacement and .5 for work on the oil pump. Not inexpensive but a far cry from the cost of a replacement motor.

Myles, Let us know some part numbers when you can. :roll:

Does anyone have a TD5 workshop manual? Can we get a picture of the suspect bolt up here on the site?

I couldn't sleep last night worrying about this!!

Crawfy, can we get some more details from your mate in Albury? I'd like to know what sort of kays he has clocked up. :?

Check the following link for a look at the offending bolt.

http://www.lrenthusiastforum.com/ubbthread...=0&fpart=3&vc=1

I don't have a part number to help you with, only the diagram in MartinL's posting at the above link. The pump can only be accessed by dropping the sump pan which is not a small job apparently. Fiddly more than anything from what I can gather.

A mate of mine is taking his 2000 Td5 Disco (150k) in to Graeme Coopers for a service on Friday and this subject will be raised. I will keep you posted.