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Thread: Engine Swap - TD5 90 to .......LS1/6......?

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    Engine Swap - TD5 90 to .......LS1/6......?

    Right.... Things have been ticking over in my mind about doing an engine swap for a while.....

    I thought I would ask if anyone has done it, or if people can think of any issues I may come across, currently this is only an idea but I may aswell find out all the pros and cons and any advice people can offer. I will speak to an engineer to see if it is possible to get it certified.

    So.. looking on ebay in the states, you can pick up an LS1 or LS6 either low mileage with box, or new in a crate for say between 5k and 8k us dollars.

    for example:

    eBay Motors: 1999 Corvette C5 LS1 Engine Auto Transmission LS6 43K (item 310048605348 end time May-14-08 10:07:47 PDT)

    eBay Motors: 2004 Z06 LS6 Engine 405 HP W/T56 6Sp LS1 LS2 LS7 LT4 (item 260238135556 end time May-14-08 11:50:00 PDT)

    I am thinking I would really like the later LS6 but in all honesty the LS1 with the box would adequate!

    What gearbox would people suggest. I think an Auto would be the safest option, but will the LT230 fit on, or be made to fit the corvette auto, or how about an adaptor to fit the whole lot to the R380. (I realise that it would only last about a week but Rakeway in the UK make an unbreakable version...)

    Any one got any suggestions....? I dont really want a Rover V8 as I dont really think they would offer enough improvement to justify the work...

    I read Rovercare's thread about the 350 to a disco which was pretty interesting.

    What other options are there? Just to add I wouldnt fit any other diesel either, except possibly a TDV8...... actually.... wonder if I can get one of those......

    Cheers
    Pete

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    i would talk to bruce davis performance in sydney, for the budget you are talking he could build you one hell of a rover v8 and the fitting issues wouldnt be a problem then.

    an LS1 into a defender would be cool though, i reckon an auto box, but you would need to research what would fit the best, and you would need to spend som cash upgrading the rest of the drive line cause a defender drive train wasnt built to take the power of a 5.7L v8
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    Thanks for the reply Ace.

    I don't really want a Rover one.....

    How about this:

    HSV LS2 6.0 LITRE V8 ENGINE HOLDEN - OPTION FOR BOAT - eBay V8, Performance Parts, Car Parts, Accessories, Cars, Bikes, Boats. (end time 17-May-08 14:25:30 AEST)

    I have wanted a very powerful 90 for a long time! Drivetrain upgrades wouldn't be too much of an issue. At least all that stuff is available off the shelf.

    Pete.

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    no worries, just thought i would mention it.

    Well go for the V8 conversion then, i would be looking in Australia for a wrecked SS Commodore or something then you have everything complete and you can source all the bits you need to make the engine run like the computer etc.

    Anything can be made to fit, but you might need some engineering to make the diffs etc line up and modified tailshafts etc will be needed. But i would be interested to follow the project it sounds like it will be a top rig when you are done.
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    Are you planning to drive it on the road? How hard would it be to get it legal?

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    Frenchie,

    I would want it to be legal yes. I will check with the engineer who engineered my car when I brought it over to see if there is any chance before I spend too long looking into it.

    Having done a bit of research it seems that the easiest option for the mechanical bits is

    LS*
    T56 (6 Speed manual)
    LT230

    There 'seems' to be an off the shelf adaptor to bolt the LT230 to the T56.

    T56 is obviously intended to be run with the LS and therefore is a straight fit and wont have any issues. If there is the conversion plate available that would make it reasonably straight forward.... propshafts and so on would obviously need to be modified.

    Wonder what the possible running angles of the LS are compared to a LR engine.... may need to be dry sumped!

    Pete

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    Watching this thread with interest.

    I have an injected rover 3.9 V8 in my 90 that I have to replace / rebuild soon.

    I'm considering the later "4L" variant for slightly more torque at lower RPM, but am not 100% set on it yet. It's a simple bolt in job, I already have the box and there's no need to take it over the pits again, as its the same capacity as my current engine. Will follow up with Bruce Davis on other rover V8 options, but am interested to see where your project takes you.

    Cheers

    Bojan

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    The supercharged 3.9 with 5 psi made 100ish RWKW a gen 3, stock, same gearing, tyres and dyno makes 170, how much do you think you'd have to do with a rover motor to get that

    Let alone the fact that the Delco EFI is awseome and will **** on any rover build for fuel economy also

    Shame you weren;t close, I'd be interested in offering some services

    Only real issue is how the 90" is going to handle the 6" shorter rear tailshaft

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    it all sounds like fun pete, but i just wen through all this genIII/LS... thing a very short time ago.

    Problems - can't get a fender engineered over 5L in QLD

    I was going to run an auto and all autos to handle that kinda power will leave you with driveshafts the size of peanuts! unless you look at a wheelbase extension while your at it?

    sorry to dampen things....

    I've opted for a freshly stroked 4.4L rover and ZF, will let you know how she goes when all done, was thinking a 5L dunnydore, but then went for the ease of a bolt together jobbie, no adaptors, etc

    sam

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    Rovercare,

    is that what it works out to be! 6" shorter lol.. great! Will need some decent prop joints!

    The T56 looks to be a relatively compact box, I would have thought it wasn't any longer than the R380 but all my guesses are coming from looking at pictures on the internet

    Will hopefully get a reply over night about the adaptor to the tranfer case. Hopefully that wont be too thick.

    Maybe I should buy a 110 with a blown engine / box or similar and shorten that to 100" (or maybe not!)

    Cheers.
    Pete

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