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Old 11th March 2010, 05:37 PM
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And if you have been winding it over heaps ... Just remember the pots are full of fuel (Thats if the fuel side is working) ... So you will have to crank the motor over with your foot flat to the floor to shut the Injectors down ....

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Old 11th March 2010, 05:51 PM
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Ok ill try and explain what happened

I need to find out if it was intentionally messded up so i can fit he new motor with some degree of confidence that it will start and there are no other problems

I took the car to a mechanic in town as it had a weeping head gasket not much but enough
It was running normal except for a slight miss fire i assume it was leaking into the cylinder aswell as leaking out
A week went by i called the mechanic a couple of times he kept making excuses why he hadn't looked at it yet so said dont worry ill come pick it up

When i get there i see him through the office door hitting the air flow meter with a big screwdriver he kind of looked a bit guilty and called me in
he said he couldn't see the leak it must be something else and tried to sell me a radiator flush
So i pointed out where it was leaking and politely left saying ill ring you when i get the new motor i will get you to fit it still

So jumped in backfired and farted all the way home

The next morning went out to have better look at it and it wouldn't start
first thing i noticed was the leads where not in the right order all the right bank was in a line 1357 i assumed that this was the reason for the farting and back firing
So got on the net got the right firing order and put it right stiill wouldn't start

Next thing i looked at was the rotor button and cap they may have got damaged if he actually had looked at it
Then i noticed that at TDC it wasnt pointing at 1 it was about 90 degrees out ( i think i can set TDC ok )
So again on the net and mostly on here found out how to refit the dizzy so it would be pointing at 1
Still no start

Now i think i have stuffed up the timing but i cant be certain that its not the air flow meter the wack with the screw driver might be the problem

Ok to answer the question
1) Yes it is at TDC i turn till the mark on the crank lines up an the piston is up top on 1 then push hose in see if it leaks
2)yes
3)havnt checked like that but will
4)yes
5)Blue
6)ok
7)?
8)? only just bought it
9)Uncertain will check
10)Yes not into the red just over 3/4 for about 100 k i think due to the leak it couldn't hold pressure it lost about 1 litre of water
11)Dont know lol ill check
13)yep
14) i have a new one in the mail just seeing him wack it cost me money cant trust it now 330k to melb 600k to syd long walk if it carks it
15) ok will do
16)ok
17)hope not
Steve, Have you read my post at all, if you follow what I wrote you will get the TIMING & PLUG LEADS right.
Your statement: Quote: The next morning went out to have better look at it and it wouldn't start
first thing i noticed was the leads where not in the right order all the right bank was in a line 1357 i assumed that this was the


Steve the right bank (passeger side) IS 1357 the drivers side is 2468.
On my V8 disco the large cutout notch in the pulley IS NOT the TDC mark, the TDC is stamped onto the outer ring and it has graduations marked either side of the TDC mark.
IF you follow my instructions to the letter and there being no other cause, like dead coil, no fuel, etc, etc, then the motor will start, once started you adjust the timing to L/R specs with a timing light, NOT before you start the engine, Regards Frank.
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Old 11th March 2010, 06:05 PM
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Good call i will check it

it has to be something i can fit a dizzy no probs normally
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Old 11th March 2010, 08:43 PM
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Got this from a repair pdf online
http://www.landmania.pt/biblioteca/M...haulManual.pdf

1 Ensure timing pointer is aligned with 30 mark
on crankshaft pulley and No.1 piston is on the
compression stroke.
2. Engine numbers without suffix B: Position
oil pump drive shaft tongue at the ten to four
position.
3. Lubricate a new ’O’ ring with engine oil and fit
to distributor.
4. Turn distributor drive until rotor arm is
approximately 30° anti-clockwise from No.1
spark plug segment in distributor cap.
5. Insert distributor into timing cover, engage
drive gear and push distributor down until ’O’
ring enters bore; position distributor clamp on
stud.
6. Engine numbers without suffix B: Locate
slotted adaptor to oil pump drive shaft tongue.
7. Check that centre line of rotor arm is aligned
with No.1 spark plug segment in distributor cap
and reference marks on distributor body and
clamp are aligned; reposition distributor if
necessary.
8. Remove rotor arm.
9. Rotate distributor to position pick-up opposite
nearest reluctor tooth.
10. Fit distributor clamp nut ensuring that
counterbored portion is towards clamp; tighten
nut.
11. Fit rotor arm.


Would the other notch on the balancer be 30 degrees
Also what i did notice TDC isn't mentioned
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Old 18th March 2010, 12:37 PM
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Update

It runs at last disconnected the air flow meter and bingo away it sputtered

Now while its running if i connect it again it makes no difference what so ever

So i found my problem
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Old 18th March 2010, 12:53 PM
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It runs at last disconnected the air flow meter and bingo away it sputtered
..... .....

Glad ya sorted ......


On to ya engine install ......

Mike
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Thanks to all

Just to clarify

When i said the leads were 1357 it was plugged into the cap that way
All 4 leads were pluged into the cap next to each other

The order is 18436572 into the cap in a clockwise direction as you stated
You will notice
piston 1 fires 1st
piston 3 fires 4th
piston 5 fires 6th
piston 7 fires 7th

My leads were
piston 1 fires 1st
piston 3 fires 2nd
piston 5 fires 3rd
piston 7 fires 4th

I was amazed it even ran

I did read all the posts and most were spot on i couldn't have asked for a clearer description

Again thanks for all the help everyone
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Old 18th March 2010, 02:12 PM
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Thanks to all

Just to clarify

When i said the leads were 1357 it was plugged into the cap that way
All 4 leads were pluged into the cap next to each other

The order is 18436572 into the cap in a clockwise direction as you stated
You will notice
piston 1 fires 1st
piston 3 fires 4th
piston 5 fires 6th
piston 7 fires 7th

My leads were
piston 1 fires 1st
piston 3 fires 2nd
piston 5 fires 3rd
piston 7 fires 4th

I was amazed it even ran

I did read all the posts and most were spot on i couldn't have asked for a clearer description

Again thanks for all the help everyone
Sorry Steve I misunderstood your post, glad you got it going, Regards Frank.
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