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I'm not sure it's cross country abillity is that compromised:
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Qf5a1CSJKI&p=D35F143B4C3CDF45]YouTube - alvis stalwart (stolly) @ KORC going up - almost ! 12/04/09[/ame]
And this - well, what can I say:
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mr_pCrhTkk&feature=related]YouTube - Alvis Stalwart[/ame]
:D
I'm green with envy Ron!
Fraser
I don't know... it didn't make it up the hill and it looks like it lifts the middle axle at the base. I think Bill's (wagoo) 6x6 IIA would probably have made it up there (if only due to lower weight).Quote:
Originally Posted by fraser130
But it does sound good...
And that 2nd vid was extremely cool.
Ron, anywhere near your place where you can replicate that :D
In the first one - with a bit of a better run up ie faster it would have got up - oh - you say it was already at top speed - bummer:D
The gradient really isn't that steep, but the video on my screen is so dark that I can't tell if it lost traction or stalled out on the incline.
Not wanting to be too critical of the Stollie, and most independently suspended multi wheeled crosscountry vehicles Pinzgauers included suffer the same deficiency of inadequate interaxle articulation.
Example. Imagine that hill was a sand dune, even a less steep one. With the Stollie on level ground the weight is more or less equally distributed over 6 wheels. Now as the front wheels start to climb the gradient the middle wheels lift off the ground, so that the weight is now concentrated only 4 wheels, but due to weight transfer on gradients the rear wheels are carrying more weight than the fronts so they dig down, which may bring proceedings to a halt.
At the top of the hill, the lack of articulation would see the Stollies front wheels lift off when the middle wheels reach the crest. The rear wheels would unload as well thereby concentrating almost all the vehicles weight on the two middle wheels which would bury themselves in the soft surface.
I'm sure some of the 101 owners would have seen this video
http://video.google.com/videoplay'do...6815226648783# of the home built UK 6x6 101 camper making repeated unsuccessful attempts to climb a fairly shallow sand dune. The video clearly illustrates the issues I've just explained.
Wagoo.
I find out how it goes off road when it get it.
Yes there are draw backs to the design and time will tell how bad they are..
You must remember all amphibious vehicles are compromises.
A LARC which is greatly over widht , does 60 kph top speed and has no springs.... is a boat with wheels and works like one on land , but is a better machine in the water.
A DUKW is fairly good on the road, but has low free board etc and is a truck chassis with a boat around it. (does 80 kph)
The stolly is is somewhere between the two.
I wonder how a DUKW with its large overhangs, 30 ft lenght would go up that mound of dirt.
I supect it would in fact go straight up only to belly in middle ,at the top.
To get better off road performance you would need to get a vehicle with another axle or tracks.
This will be a learning curve for me,and i think the stolly will be weak in some areas and very strong in others.
I suspect trying to keep up with one going over broken ground even with a modern vehicle would be very ,very hard.
I have access to a family property in the bush as a play area near by and it has plenty of steep hills to try things out on.
Super steep decents and climbs I suspect will not be the stollys thing.
Access to a large amount of fresh water near by is a problem.
Yes the old army range in Morton PK is close too.
I certainly agree that not too many vehicles could keep up with a Stollie over rough broken terrain. Does anyone remember an old television advertisment for Rank Arena TVs I think,Where to demonstrate the durabilty of their TVs they bolted one to the front of a Saladin or Saracen and drove flat out through the Tank proving ground at Puckapunyal? It was very impressive.
Wagoo.
With the amount of rain lately and the fact that Sydney isn't pumping from Tallowa for the last year. The salt water should have been pushed back below Burrier. You could try the Shoalhaven near Yalwal creek without much problem?
I was thinking Burrier and asking for access thought the quarry or go though Coolendel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies
I am learning lots of things about freighting vehicles.
AJ can line up someone with a lowloader for $2800.....:eek::eek:
or some else who is not really interested for $2000.
I tried all the local transport companys today.
The local tilt tray bloke with all the correct permits for wide/overheight loads the go down empty and bring back...$2000.
The best has been if I wait a little while for a drop deck which would otherwise return to Nowra empty .....$600 which is much better.
The vehicle measures
3.3mtrs high which means a drop deck or low loader(3.1 mtrs is the limit)........or tilt tray with special over height permit.( altas crane fitted to Stolly)
Width 2.6 mtrs with means its over width .......over width loads can not be carried with other loads on the same vehicle, so I can not save money by sharing half load on a trailer or truck.
Lenght 6.4 mtrs which is good.
weight 10 tonnes.
The games are just starting with this thing.
I can only hope the $600 option comes good.
I allowed a $1000 to transport.....crossing my fingers.
Another interesting thing I learnt is the truck checking stations on the Hume have beams and sensors to detect over height and width loads as you drive in.
I don't believe that outriggers are still legal on trailers and I wouldn't want to be putting the tyres off the edge of the trailer lest the Stolly keeps going off the side.
In which case I'm thinking that your only option will be a low loader which can be 2.7M or self widening decks.
Correct me if in wrong but is that not the stig (or his norwegian cousin) at the wheel in the second vid??:o:D