Dumb question?

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Originally Posted by DT-P38

Thanks for the feedback everyone. So I'm thinking I really need to find a cheap light (canvas covered) aus army one (with the mad truck pulling std factory winch I've seen on youtube) and just chuck swags and boxes of gear in the back for camping... The seem to look top heavy though and I would want to take it as far off road as the P38 can get. Happy to bang the mentioned locker in to help, but am I still being too optimistic that these things can go bush properly?

P.S. Sounds silly, but perenti's don't do it for me like these old clinkers do at the moment!

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Lateral stability of a 101 is probably on a par with other LandRover models.They have been known to stand on their noses on very steep downhills, but I would think that was due to panicky overuse of the brake pedal from operators unfamiliar with forward control vehicles in off road situations. Personally not keen on the Kockums(SP?) winch cantilevered off the side of one chassis rail. In addition to one or two lockers, a quick release on the front antiroll bar would aid lightly laden offroad ability.
Did think about owning one years ago, but at the time for around the same cost I could have a holiday in the UK and buy a low mileage Volvo C303 4x4 or a 306 6x6 that have difflocks and portal axles standard, ship it to OZ and have enough left over for a cup of coffee.Didn't do either in the end unfortunately.
Wagoo.

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Originally Posted by garrycol

Can you confirm the rumble went as I have not come across anyone who can swear on a pile of virgins that their idea actually works. Plenty of ideas on how to fix but non yet proven.

Other options are:

Lower the drivers side engine and gear box
Fit a double carden shaft
Make the 101 part time 4wd

Of course the hardest to do is the one you suggested - I was going to pull my front axle housing out to send it to a diff specialist to put an ARB airlocker in so if it was easy to separate the axle housing into its three parts and rejoin then I would consider it. Adjusting the oil levels to compensate means there is more oil in the diff = was there any indication of pressuring the diff - if I did this I would make the diff breathers larger with larger pipe to ensure any pressurisation did not occur.

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Who else do you know that tried tilting the diff? And more importantly where did you find enough virgins to make a pile?
I can only confirm that the rumble was cured on the 2 vehicles we (4x4 motors Blackburn)did.Otherwise we would have only tried it once.
About your other 3 options. The double Cardan joint on only one end of the propshaft wouldn't be successful unless you tilt the pinion up so that the single joint is not operating at more than around 3 degrees.
The transmission on a 101 is already exposed and vulnerable. Not keen on lowering it further.
As I informed on another thread, Early Dodge Power Wagon Free wheel hubs were modified by Warn Industries in the US and supplied 2 sets to Russell and Jeff Hampton in Melbourne about 20 odd years ago. Maybe they will do them again if asked.If AVM in Brazil do them I wouldn't bother, as their hubs are crap.
Wagoo.

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Originally Posted by wagoo

Who else do you know that tried tilting the diff?
Wagoo.

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I do not know anyone who has actually done - it has just been mentioned on a few forums - as I said a lot of people have ideas but until your post above never come across anyone who has actually achieved success. So you would see to be the first.

As far as stability goes - I agree - I doubt the 101 is any different to any other landie - maybe a little better because it is a bit wider. The main issue is the FC characteristic of wanting to tip a bit if it drops a front wheel into a hole while descending a steep hill but you soon learn to handle it - likewise descending a steep loose hill when unloaded - the back wants to overtake the rear but minimised by being in the right gear/range cdl locked and light braking to correct or a bit of throttle - like all vehicles really - just avoid the deep holes.

Garry

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Originally Posted by garrycol

I do not know anyone who has actually done - it has just been mentioned on a few forums - as I said a lot of people have ideas but until your post above never come across anyone who has actually achieved success. So you would see to be the first.

As far as stability goes - I agree - I doubt the 101 is any different to any other landie - maybe a little better because it is a bit wider. The main issue is the FC characteristic of wanting to tip a bit if it drops a front wheel into a hole while descending a steep hill but you soon learn to handle it - likewise descending a steep loose hill when unloaded - the back wants to overtake the rear but minimised by being in the right gear/range cdl locked and light braking to correct or a bit of throttle - like all vehicles really - just avoid the deep holes.

Garry

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Trying with some difficulty to cast my memory back 20 odd years to who ended up with the vehicles with the modded front ends.We had a lot of 101s pass through our hands. I think Rod Genn From Melbournes truck might be one.And the proprieter of 4x4, Don MGilivray owned the other for awhile, but on sold it to god knows who.There may have been a third one that we organised through MCNamaras on a beautifully restored 101 belonging to a Rod Stokes, but he sold that to someone from Nauru unfortunately, and it probably has rotted away over there by now.
I assume you 101 enthusiasts have a register of names and contact details of past and present owners.
Wagoo.

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Originally Posted by wagoo

I assume you 101 enthusiasts have a register of names and contact details of past and present owners.
Wagoo.

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Nope - the 101 page on REMLR is about as close as it gets :(

Garry

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Originally Posted by garrycol

Nope - the 101 page on REMLR is about as close as it gets :(

Garry

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Not certain but I think Anthony Jonson of British 4wd Imports in Melb may have compiled a reasonable list over the years. He's a bit of a 101 tragic, and I attended a couple of 101 get togethers at his residence some time ago.
Wagoo.

A rolled diff.
It does work.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...2011/03/30.jpg
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Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

I luv'em.

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/members/mi...8101-1%29.html

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/members/mi...8101-2%29.html

Buy one. You know you want to.

There are two kinds of Landrover enthusiasts, those who have a 101 and those who want a 101.

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Totally agree, who cares how impratical they may be i still want one !