Thread: Stuee's 101 Rebuild

Don't keep us in suspense too long!

Originally Posted by JayBoRover

Don't keep us in suspense too long!

No luck

The big items on the list are a part 2 ADR report, padding on the roll bar and exposed bolts, LK1 and LK2 for rear seats, and to fix some fouling between the front callipers and wheels that had gone unnoticed. ADR report is easy, passing is easy, but the other two wont be.

The engineer I spoke to has said that the latest VSB 5a and 5b make it very difficult to approve side facing seats and that I would be better off getting some front facing seats sorted. Its likely I'm only going to register this as a two seater now but I'll see if I can sway him when he comes around on Saturday for the ADR report. Otherwise all the effot and money gone into them will have been a waste

The wheels I'm just miffed about. I hadn't noticed this before the inspection. Paint has been rubbed off the rim leaving rust, although there is no gouging and it was rusty meaning that it hasn't been rubbing for a while now. Not sure what to do about this one, going to think about it for a while.

The only other ones that requires effort are a weigh bridge report and some new seat-belts.

Originally Posted by stuee

No luck

The big items on the list are a part 2 ADR report, padding on the roll bar and exposed bolts, LK1 and LK2 for rear seats, and to fix some fouling between the front callipers and wheels that had gone unnoticed. ADR report is easy, passing is easy, but the other two wont be.

The engineer I spoke to has said that the latest VSB 5a and 5b make it very difficult to approve side facing seats and that I would be better off getting some front facing seats sorted. Its likely I'm only going to register this as a two seater now but I'll see if I can sway him when he comes around on Saturday for the ADR report. Otherwise all the effot and money gone into them will have been a waste

The wheels I'm just miffed about. I hadn't noticed this before the inspection. Paint has been rubbed off the rim leaving rust, although there is no gouging and it was rusty meaning that it hasn't been rubbing for a while now. Not sure what to do about this one, going to think about it for a while.

The only other ones that requires effort are a weigh bridge report and some new seat-belts.

Have a look at Landcruiser troopies for side facing seats. They may give you some ideas. One of my 101's is approved for side facing seats.

I seem to recollect Ron had issues with his calipers fouling. It may be a similar problem. It might be worth having a read of his brake conversion thread.

Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

Have a look at Landcruiser troopies for side facing seats. They may give you some ideas. One of my 101's is approved for side facing seats.

I seem to recollect Ron had issues with his calipers fouling. It may be a similar problem. It might be worth having a read of his brake conversion thread.

I gather if I registered my 101 before the latest VSB it wouldn't be an issue. Quite annoyed with it.

I'm going to start going through the threads again but I got told specifically not to touch the callipers. If I can space the rim out a small amount it will be okay. I may get away with simply replacing the provided spacer (to account for the drum not being there) with a once that's two or 3mm wider.

Toyota troopies do not have side facing seats any more due to ADRs.
About 10 years ago I remember the Rural Fire Service having to get rid of a good troopy and replace it with a 80 series as the insurance company wouldn't touch it because of the seats.
The discs and calipers on my 101 cleared the wheels with or without the spacer.
It is very tight clearance wise.
I used the spacer for more clearance for the LHS tie rod ends to the tyre sidewall espesically as I am running wider rubber.
Would it be possible that a pebble got caught between the caliper and wheel and then dropped out again.
The caliper should clear the wheel spacer or not.......only just.
In practice mud and rocks have not given me any trouble disc brake wise..
Check that the callipers are sitting square to the mounting bracket and that you removed enough metal from the caliper to clear the CV housing so it sits perfectly.

These guys run a troopie with side facing seats. It looks just like this one:

Hi Stuee,
If I remember correctly, these are oringinal 101 seats, just new into your vehicle. Therefore VSB5B doesn't apply...

WA complies with the requirements of VSB 14 NCOP for Light Vehicle Construction and Modification.
So you can refer to Section LK Seating and Occupant Protection

1.1 BASIC MODIFICATIONS NOT REQUIRING CERTIFICATION

Fitting a manufacturer’s optional seating configuration to the particular make/model.

I also found this on the WA website Modify a light vehicle


Modifications that do not require approval include:

• Optional manufacturer seating.

And I looked at VSB5B from the DOTRS website (quickly) and can see nothing that makes side facing seats "harder" that forward facing or rearward facing seats. In fact, the requirements appear easier.
Vehicle Standards Bulletins

Perhaps you are OK?
Ian.

From VSB05a (if that applies)

SIDE-FACING SEATS
Although side-facing seats may be fitted, front-facing and rear-facing seats are preferred because they provide a higher level of safety.