Thread: Monster 6 Turbo Diesel into a 101.

Originally Posted by nrs91

spot on Si... looks mean... will deffo come find ya next time im in Aussie!

You'd be welcome too! Plan to time my first visit back to the UK with a Brunch and Banter meet if that's ok too!!

Originally Posted by Sitec

You'd be welcome too! Plan to time my first visit back to the UK with a Brunch and Banter meet if that's ok too!!

sure buddy ya can jump in the wagon with me and tag along

Hi Sitec,
Came across this story via facebook. Couldn't believe that this would fit into a 101 . If a may ask do you have some information for me about the nissan 6 cil diesel, what type of engine, gearbox, transferbox did you use? A few years ago I put a 300tdi in my 101FCGS, but is lacking the power that I expected from it, so I 'm looking for something else.

Kind regards,
Rene

Originally Posted by rene101

Hi Sitec,
If a may ask do you have some information for me about the nissan 6 cil diesel, what type of engine, gearbox, transferbox did you use? A few years ago I put a 300tdi in my 101FCGS, but is lacking the power that I expected from it, so I 'm looking for something else.

Nissan? wash your mouth out with soap! CUMMINS
N the little 2.5l landy lumps are fine for pottering about but trying to move the flat fronted 101s i think they are found lacking but better than 3.5 v8 haha

Originally Posted by rene101

Hi Sitec,
Came across this story via facebook. Couldn't believe that this would fit into a 101 . If a may ask do you have some information for me about the nissan 6 cil diesel, what type of engine, gearbox, transferbox did you use? A few years ago I put a 300tdi in my 101FCGS, but is lacking the power that I expected from it, so I 'm looking for something else.

Kind regards,
Rene

Hi Rene! And welcome to the forum and this section. I've read about a few Tdi powered 101s, and one of the 3 I looked at was a Tdi, and yes, having got used to 5.9 litres of Cummins, I think I'd struggle with a Tdi powered 101. Ok, the Nissan engine I used in my old 101 was a Nissan/UD 5.7 6 cylinder truck/bus engine. They are found in older Nissan and International trucks over here in Oz. they came in non turbo form (FD6), and the Turbo Version was the FD6t. They were a very different engine from the Cummins Im running now as they were much more free revving.. I ran my engine in front of the original 101 gearbox (LT95) but moved it back 150mm and altered the props to suit. (This also got rid of the dreaded 101 prop rumble too). I raised the Salisbury Diff ratio from 5.7:1 to 4.7:1 (rear Salisbury diffs out of Ser 3 LWB, and use your original centers and bearings). I also ran an overdrive, but this didn't like the big diesel, so I'd suggest higher ratio transfer gears in the original transfer box. BUT..... You will struggle to find one of these engines in the UK/Europe as they were only fitted to a very few busses, are old now and probably all long gone.. In my view, you have a few options... Option 1:- Td5 and R380 5 speed gearbox. Tune the Td5 correctly and it will go very well in a 101. (It has been done here in Oz and we are still eagerly awaiting the owner to to come say hi and start a thread about it!!! ..). Option 2:- If you are set on a Nissan Engine, then find a crash damaged Nissan Patrol GQ with the 4.2 litre 6 cylinder Turbo Diesel engine. Utilise the gearbox and transfer box, and just mod the props and diff ratios.... (If you wish to retain the full time four wheel drive as std on a 101, use an LT 230 Land Rover transfer case with the 1.222:1 ratio and Defender Salisbury diff centers (3.54:1 ratio.. You will need the center as well, and then fit your center gears to the new diff center). Option 3:- Cummins 6Bt and ZF5-42 gearbox out of a Leyland Daf 45 truck from the UK.. (Cheep at around £1000.... Ok, this is the daft option, and by far the most work, but it'll sound awesome, go like a cut snake, and become a talking point!! Just ask Nick (nrs91) and I!!

Realistically, Option 1 and or 2 are the best, and most refined. You'd get nice power, smooth usable engines and reasonable fuel economy. The Td5 would be a lot better on fuel than the Nissan, as the TD42 is indirect injection, so they tend to consume more fuel. Both sound nice, and can be made to sound awesome! I would steer clear of larger 4 cylinder diesels as they have plenty of power, but their torque is very course (distructive)... There are many this side of the water who swear by the Isuzu 4Bd1 engine, and a friend locally is fitting one to a 101 as we speak. They are a good engine, just not my choice. Hope this little lot helps, and get a thread going about your 101 as we'd love to know more! Cheers for now!

Originally Posted by Sitec

Hi Rene! And welcome to the forum and this section. I've read about a few Tdi powered 101s, and one of the 3 I looked at was a Tdi, and yes, having got used to 5.9 litres of Cummins, I think I'd struggle with a Tdi powered 101. Ok, the Nissan engine I used in my old 101 was a Nissan/UD 5.7 6 cylinder truck/bus engine. They are found in older Nissan and International trucks over here in Oz. they came in non turbo form (FD6), and the Turbo Version was the FD6t. They were a very different engine from the Cummins Im running now as they were much more free revving.. I ran my engine in front of the original 101 gearbox (LT95) but moved it back 150mm and altered the props to suit. (This also got rid of the dreaded 101 prop rumble too). I raised the Salisbury Diff ratio from 5.7:1 to 4.7:1 (rear Salisbury diffs out of Ser 3 LWB, and use your original centers and bearings). I also ran an overdrive, but this didn't like the big diesel, so I'd suggest higher ratio transfer gears in the original transfer box. BUT..... You will struggle to find one of these engines in the UK/Europe as they were only fitted to a very few busses, are old now and probably all long gone.. In my view, you have a few options... Option 1:- Td5 and R380 5 speed gearbox. Tune the Td5 correctly and it will go very well in a 101. (It has been done here in Oz and we are still eagerly awaiting the owner to to come say hi and start a thread about it!!! ..). Option 2:- If you are set on a Nissan Engine, then find a crash damaged Nissan Patrol GQ with the 4.2 litre 6 cylinder Turbo Diesel engine. Utilise the gearbox and transfer box, and just mod the props and diff ratios.... (If you wish to retain the full time four wheel drive as std on a 101, use an LT 230 Land Rover transfer case with the 1.222:1 ratio and Defender Salisbury diff centers (3.54:1 ratio.. You will need the center as well, and then fit your center gears to the new diff center). Option 3:- Cummins 6Bt and ZF5-42 gearbox out of a Leyland Daf 45 truck from the UK.. (Cheep at around £1000.... Ok, this is the daft option, and by far the most work, but it'll sound awesome, go like a cut snake, and become a talking point!! Just ask Nick (nrs91) and I!!

Realistically, Option 1 and or 2 are the best, and most refined. You'd get nice power, smooth usable engines and reasonable fuel economy. The Td5 would be a lot better on fuel than the Nissan, as the TD42 is indirect injection, so they tend to consume more fuel. Both sound nice, and can be made to sound awesome! I would steer clear of larger 4 cylinder diesels as they have plenty of power, but their torque is very course (distructive)... There are many this side of the water who swear by the Isuzu 4Bd1 engine, and a friend locally is fitting one to a 101 as we speak. They are a good engine, just not my choice. Hope this little lot helps, and get a thread going about your 101 as we'd love to know more! Cheers for now!

Spot on Si! once youve finished playing around and enjoying the power im certain youl be pleasantly surprised by the increased economy... its the easiest and most quantifyable thing to share over the internet... the pure power is hard to get across :P

Ok, so after a few kms now and a lot of pestering from diesel heads at work and next door, the muffler fell off today.. Well, it had a little help with the thin disk.. Now, it sounds awesome, but poss a bit too loud.... Not sure. Going to try it for a bit and see. Here's a phone vid so the sound is not great, but you'll get the idea!

Originally Posted by Sitec

Ok, so after a few kms now and a lot of pestering from diesel heads at work and next door, the muffler fell off today.. Well, it had a little help with the thin disk.. Now, it sounds awesome, but poss a bit too loud.... Not sure. Going to try it for a bit and see. Here's a phone vid so the sound is not great, but you'll get the idea!

good boy! your learning well! now leave it... sounds perfect!