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    New Hino 300 4x4

    This looks a good alternative to the Iveco 4x4

    Vented front & Vented rear discs on Hino vs woeful Solid front rotors and drums on Iveco

    Very Heavy duty transfer case from bigger Hino 4x4 . Super Singles and rear diff lock optional.


    Hino Dual cab vs Iveco DC

    7500gvm vs 5500gvm

    both are only 3500kg towing
    both can be reg as 4495 gvm for car license

    Wheel track 1650 vs Iveco 1670
    Width 2130 vs Iveco 2016
    Height 2565 vs Iveco 2597
    Length 6205 vs Iveco 5432

    4L turbo diesel v 3.0L
    Euro5 v Euro6 w Adblue

    Clutch 325mm vs Iveco 280mm
    Turning kerb to kerb 14.6m v 13.4m
    Wheelbase 3500 vs 3500

    Exhaust brake standard on hino vs zero engine braking on Iveco

    Low 1st 66:1 vs Iveco 101:1 , is about equiv to Iveco Low 2nd but thats more than low enough esp with Exhaust brake

    Fueltank 170L vs Iveco 90L

    AU$ 80k vs 100k

    https://www.uteguide.com.au/hino-300-series-817-4x4.../

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    Perhaps a viable replacement for the Oka (or a Daily) if I succumb to the bright and shiny

    A couple of points though ........................ "Super low range crawl gear of 2.2:1", hardly super low but actually refers to the TC low range ratio. A pity the sales/marketing types don't know/understand the difference between the two.

    The other thing that struck me was the 8.5 R17.5 wheel/tyres. A ridiculous and difficult to obtain size and with a relatively low load rating of 121/120. But as an off road camper base you'd give these the flick and go with larger diameter 'super singles' to give better gearing/ride etc. I wonder if the 100 kph limiter can be turned off ?

    Is this the next Goingbush project ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeanoH View Post
    Is this the next Goingbush project ??

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    may very well be , SWMBO has lost complete confidence in Iveco , peace of mind is a huge part of having a stress free relax when touring.

    Todays Iveco effort was a 320km round towing trip and the Boost hose popped off , seems every trip a new fault manifests itself. At least my brakes are sorted.

    Will be organising a test drive in the next few weeks & if all goes well will trade the Iveco in on a DC Hino with super singles (19.5's) & RDL .

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    Sounds like a Land Rover Don
    Hino were generally known as a Japanese Mack so could be a good thing

    Quote Originally Posted by goingbush View Post
    may very well be , SWMBO has lost complete confidence in Iveco , peace of mind is a huge part of having a stress free relax when touring.

    Todays Iveco effort was a 320km round towing trip and the Boost hose popped off , seems every trip a new fault manifests itself. At least my brakes are sorted.

    Will be organising a test drive in the next few weeks & if all goes well will trade the Iveco in on a DC Hino with super singles (19.5's) & RDL .

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    Hino = Toyota trucks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rrturboD View Post
    Hino = Toyota trucks?
    Yep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goingbush View Post
    may very well be , SWMBO has lost complete confidence in Iveco , peace of mind is a huge part of having a stress free relax when touring.

    Todays Iveco effort was a 320km round towing trip and the Boost hose popped off , seems every trip a new fault manifests itself. At least my brakes are sorted.

    Will be organising a test drive in the next few weeks & if all goes well will trade the Iveco in on a DC Hino with super singles (19.5's) & RDL .
    I will be interested to know how you find the ride quality. I thought that the Jap trucks had a very hard ride in the front mainly due to the short front spring length?

    Given your obvious skill in modifying and improving your vehicles, I wonder why you would consider say an OKA? They are modular, rebuildable and improvable by design and a seriously good overlanding vehicle can be built from a reasonably modest base? For instance the OKA has seriously long leaf springs at both ends which reputably give a superb ride over rough ground.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cjc_td5 View Post
    I will be interested to know how you find the ride quality. I thought that the Jap trucks had a very hard ride in the front mainly due to the short front spring length?

    Given your obvious skill in modifying and improving your vehicles, I wonder why you would consider say an OKA? They are modular, rebuildable and improvable by design and a seriously good overlanding vehicle can be built from a reasonably modest base? For instance the OKA has seriously long leaf springs at both ends which reputably give a superb ride over rough ground.
    I simply don't like the big box between the front seats , otherwise I would have found one before the Iveco.

    A bloke I know just traded his Iveco on a Hino, 20k changeover, he reports the ride is better than Iveco , (with 1 tonne on the back) and more grunt .

    After thinking about it more, I'll probably hold off on spending new car money for now though , at least until I see what the new Defender is all about, but if its anything al all like a D5 / RR I'll run the other way. I may keep the Iveco and get the Jeep Scrambler DC Ute announced for next year if the Defender is no good.

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    I don't own a 4wd truck but I ride in many with my work, and I often wish I had a cab-over instead of the 130. The poor ride, and inconvenience of climbing in and out of the cab all day when working stops me.

    I wouldn't call an OKA smooth riding, but maybe it was the road. My ride rating, having nursed camera equipment in 4x4 trucks off-road, would be from worst to best: Unimog (ex army) - tragic, non existent suspension; Isuzu - harsh; Canter - just bearable, bouncy; OKA - not bad but definitely firm; Defender 130 - oh, what a relief! We're floating!

    Haven't ridden in the little 4x4 Hino but I notice the Indonesian army uses lots of them - very common sight in the remoter parts of their empire. I did ride in a 2wd Hino 4 tonner on road/track (all surfaces, but not off-road) and its ride surprised me - softer empty than the 130 loaded.

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