Say ta ta to the Puma next year...

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Originally Posted by Pedro_The_Swift

I'm sorry Rick,,

I just had too---:angel:

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Originally Posted by abaddonxi

:Rolling::Rolling::Rolling:


Stick it to da man!

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:o not fair !

The thing I don't get is that icon is supposed to come out in 2012 so we are going to have the very last true defender,the defender I have been hanging out for go from the best off the shelf 4wd to a silly little engined thing that is good for nothing but passing the tree huggers laws. Pat

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Originally Posted by PAT303

The thing I don't get is that icon is supposed to come out in 2012 so we are going to have the very last true defender,the defender I have been hanging out for go from the best off the shelf 4wd to a silly little engined thing that is good for nothing but passing the tree huggers laws. Pat

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This is where the new 79 comes in. Twice the pistons, twice the displacement and you'd never have to be the only LR owner in the village anymore:D:D. Imagine the joy of burning all that fuel and oil. **** the tree huggers:cool:

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Originally Posted by schmierer LR at singleton

in australia its a work truck but in euro land i would think it is mostly a suv anyway it was just a comparisonment

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I don't think so, I think it's mainly bought by farmers, forestry, etc.

Where's Michele, Jo Jo and camel_landy ?
They'd know :D

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Originally Posted by rick130

I don't think so, I think it's mainly bought by farmers, forestry, etc.

Where's Michele, Jo Jo and camel_landy ?
They'd know :D

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I don't know about the rest of Europe, but 18 months ago, when I crossed the border into Scotland, over half the Defenders I saw were towing a trailer and most of them were horse floats, including one that I swear was big enough for four horses.

That plus the fact that most of them seemed to have a liberal coating of some sort of mixture of mud and manure leads me to believe that a significant number of Scottish farmers buy them. I saw none that appeared to have been bought as a SUV.

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Originally Posted by uninformed

:confused::confused::confused:

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Originally Posted by rick130

:o not fair !

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Gotta follow the bouncing ball.



Or check out the comments.:D

Not sure I agree with all the talk that the smaller Defender engine will necessarily be more stressed. I have never had cause to rev mine to 3000rpm and it motors along quite comfortably between 1000 & 2000rpm.

It's all in the gearing and the Defender's is so low they could probably put a 1.9l engine in and get similar real world performance. I'd hardly say the Puma engine thrashes about at all. It seems as relaxed and lazy as much larger engined diesels.

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Originally Posted by B92 8NW

This is where the new 79 comes in. Twice the pistons, twice the displacement and you'd never have to be the only LR owner in the village anymore:D:D. Imagine the joy of burning all that fuel and oil. **** the tree huggers:cool:

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Yep they are an improvement,shoddy cabs,shoddy ride,everything possible built cheap,they tram line like you wouldn't believe,burn lots of everything,the valley fills with dirt and stuffs the starter,ever tried changing one?,doors still fall off,suspension still falls apart,had two gearbox failures before 50K and all that for only $72,000:eek:. Pat

I can confirm this is a 2.2.

http://analogalex.fatcow.com/2200defa.JPG

The bit I dont follow with all this "meeting emissions" bull**** is the fact that they have a 3.0 TDV6 that meets emissions...............why not just use that motor ??

However after having a decent drive in my PUMA 2.4 it certainly is not lacking power and on the highway eats the naturally aspirated 4.2 that was in the cruiser ute I used to own.

Maybe the ICON will be the bees knees and they will just use one of the disco motors in it.

So when will the Aussie Market see the Defenders with the new 2.2 motor ?

And I suppose you could buy a 3.2 Transit motor from Ford and drop that in if you wanted ?? That would be an improvement over the 2.4 too I suppose.