Puma Clutch Death Rattle Again

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Originally Posted by Allan

So why not buy a D3 if the Defender is so bad. When I turned spanners for a living, long before becoming a mental Health Nurse, Ford Escorts were winning races all around the world. At this time I spent 5-6 hours a day changing clutch plates with the same problem as the Puma has. Ford also at that time replaced gearboxes by the thousends in British Fords. I still think the problem with the transmission will be fixed as they were then. Why own a Defender if all you want is a D3 or RR V8 sport clone. Other than the clutch problem I find my Puma to be the best 4x4 I've driven under most conditions. Yes my wifes 90 is perhaps a little better of road - depends, but all round no standerd TD5 or for that matter I think any other standard 4x4, maybe I forgot the Toyota v8 Diesal, could compare with the Puma both off or on road. Yes it has its problems but, though last night I had thoughts of selling it, after driving it again today---------ah what can you do.;)
Allan

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Exactly Allan, well put!

JC

i reckon we will see if landrover has messed up when it launchs the 2.2 defender, if the drive train is changed we have the answer.

would that be enough proof for a class action law suit to relive our suffering??????????

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Originally Posted by muddymech

i reckon we will see if landrover has messed up when it launchs the 2.2 defender, if the drive train is changed we have the answer.

would that be enough proof for a class action law suit to relive our suffering??????????

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When do the first 2.2 defenders hit Australia ?

I know it will have improved figures, but Im kind of glad I have a 2.4......I think thats small enough given the size of a defender. In reality the motor should have been the TDV6 in it I reckon.

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Originally Posted by muddymech

i reckon we will see if landrover has messed up when it launchs the 2.2 defender, if the drive train is changed we have the answer.

would that be enough proof for a class action law suit to relive our suffering??????????

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Warranty repairs then might use parts from the new drive train if possible...........

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Originally Posted by JDNSW

The Defender has not lasted sixty years.

The Defender has been in production for twenty years, with its 90/110 predecessor really the same, so you can say it has actually lasted for twenty-six years.

The overall shape and dimensions go back to the Series 2 in 1958, but the chassis, suspension and layout owe their origin to the Rangerover in 1970, which is only takes you back forty years.

Going back to the first Landrover in 1948 is only the concept, and using this to say the Defender has lasted sixty years makes about as much sense as considering the current Holden Commodore as being the same as the 1948 Holden.

But twenty-six years of production is still a respectable life, compared, for example, to the Series 2/3 which was about the same, or the VW beetle and Citroen 2CV about fifty years. Both of these retained the same styling for fifty years, about the same as the Defender has, even though in the case of both the Defender and beetle it was only styling and basic concept.

John

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Had to use the Defender Puma for work the other day as I had to tow a pallet of goods for a delivery which would not fit in my normal work vehicle, a Hiace. Pulled up to have the goods loaded onto the trailer. A bloke was standing looking at the Defender and asked "What year is it mate?". I replied "its a 2007". He replied "Really! Looks like it was made in 1970" Had to smile.

No doubt the guts are modern but the look is classic and looks all of its 60 years of LR heritage. That's the charm of the thing.:):)

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Originally Posted by pc3

When do the first 2.2 defenders hit Australia ?

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Is that in the 'all new' Defender or is there an upgrade of the current model coming before then?

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Originally Posted by muddymech

i reckon we will see if landrover has messed up when it launchs the 2.2 defender, if the drive train is changed we have the answer.

would that be enough proof for a class action law suit to relive our suffering??????????

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Yep, court actions usually mean reliving angst before they are relieved... ;)

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Originally Posted by crl

Is that in the 'all new' Defender or is there an upgrade of the current model coming before then?

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Upgrade I beleive................

These posts on the puma have me gobsmacked.I very nearly bought one.It seems my reluctance appears to have been wise and I will stick to my D1 TDi until the newey comes out.
Thanks all for your posts,the last thing I want in a new vehicle is dramas.

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Originally Posted by pc3

Upgrade I beleive................

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I look forward to seeing that, (hopefully with an upgraded drivetrain).