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    Swivel housing grease... I'm confused!!!

    Hi all,

    I've recently bought a 1996 Defender 130 and I'm just about to change the diff oils and I noticed a couple of official looking stickers on the radiator telling me that grease (with a LandRover part no.) had been fitted to the swivels on both sides.

    So, now what do I do...? I'm thinking I just change the front diff oil as usual and ignore the swivel houses but thought I'd better ask the question. I've done a bit of the search on the forum and learnt a little but haven't found a clear answer to this question.

    Any and all advice welcomed.

    Cheers, LandieMan

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    iv never seen such a sticker, i put lsx 90 in mine, same as the diff

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    Landieman, yes these stickers come in the genuine one shot grease kits. I would still open the filler plug on each swivel and pump in about 100 to 200ml of 80w90 gear oil. This will ensure enough lube as it is impossible to measure the amount of grease left in there. The grease DOES migrate eventually into the front diff, so after a time there is insufficient lube left for CV and swivel brgs etc. To properly 'service' the housings, whether you use new grease or 80w90 you will need to slip off the hub and disc, the stub axle and slide the cv and shaft out. Wipe out the housing and then reassemble. Refill with chosen lubricant. I prefer oil, but the one shot grease works OK, AS LONG AS THERE IS SOME IN THERE!

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    it means that post about 93/94 the vehcile has had the oil removed from the compartment of the swivel housing and the wheel bearings packed with grease and not running in oil.

    the diff itself is unaffected by the change you just change the oil as per normal.


    the jury is officially out as to if the ease of maintenance of the CV grease with the grease filled bearings (and the fact that the grease cant easily leak out past the hub seal onto the bearings) is better than the longevity but more maintenance intensive version of having the oil in the swivels and bearings.
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    Thanks for the replies.

    I've now changed the oil and both swivel housings took about 200ml of oil. Interestingly the oil that came out of the front diff had a distinctly green look to it which I assume is the grease migrating into the diff from the swivels.

    The oil out of the rear diff looked as clean as the new stuff I was putting in.

    Thanks again for the advice.

    Cheers, LandieMan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blknight.aus View Post
    it means that post about 93/94 the vehcile has had the oil removed from the compartment of the swivel housing and the wheel bearings packed with grease and not running in oil.

    the diff itself is unaffected by the change you just change the oil as per normal.


    the jury is officially out as to if the ease of maintenance of the CV grease with the grease filled bearings (and the fact that the grease cant easily leak out past the hub seal onto the bearings) is better than the longevity but more maintenance intensive version of having the oil in the swivels and bearings.
    Blknight Im debating this myself at the moment as its a first for me, i have TF heavy duty drive flanges (from the PO) and I'm about to crack open the swivels and flanges for the first time... correct me if Im wrong but it seems that if the inner hub seal is removed then you have a system where the oil flows all the way out to the end past the bearings and CV's? if so then this would be the easiest option for maintenance yeah? do bearings still need to be repacked at interval or does the oil in hub setup sort all that out? I'm thinking this is the avenue I'll go down. My swivels are in good order from what i can see, i have no leaks, but have developed a grinding in the Front RHS at full lock. So I'm thinking CV joint. hence the reason im diving in. Obviously it might be a lack of lubrication issue but i wont know till i get in there... any thoughts?

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    I bought three tubes of Penrite Semi-Fluid Grease to do my Disco 1 but never did it. It was somewhat cheaper than the LR product.

    SEMI FLUID GREASE

    Maybe that was a good thing, they don't show it as suitable for CV joints.

    http://www.penriteoil.com.au/assets/...D%20GREASE.pdf
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    Mine were greased before I purchased it.




    I'm guessing the LR fix was to switch to grease rather than fix the problem.
    If the seal is OK the oil will stay there. The grease is a lower cost option over replacing the seals.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gromit View Post
    Mine were greased before I purchased it.




    I'm guessing the LR fix was to switch to grease rather than fix the problem.
    If the seal is OK the oil will stay there. The grease is a lower cost option over replacing the seals.


    Colin
    yeah i definitely see the merit for a swivel with a slight leak... thats a no brainer..

    i aint got no leaks though and the HD flanges are already in situ... would seem unnecessary to run grease in this instance id think.

    im gonna dive in tommorrow and do as Justin says and add some 85W90 gear oil and see how i go i think

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    I run oil in the 101 swivels and grease in the RRC - both are fine but the 101 leaks from the RH swivel - when it stops leaking I know it needs refilling...
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