If you can afford it - get the Puma (cos you won't be happy until you do) but keep the TD5 - you then have options. ;)
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If you can afford it - get the Puma (cos you won't be happy until you do) but keep the TD5 - you then have options. ;)
With 115k's the Td5 will bring good money so I'd sell and go the puma.I will know by the end of this year which way I'll go as my work-income changes and if it does work out my much loved Tdi will go and be replaced by a Puma 90.You can live in the past as many do but I like to look forward and that way is Puma,I will most likely be going into the Pilbara so I'll get a hawkeye to read both the puma and L322 and do everything in house. Pat
Test drove myself a Puma Yesterday.
Not a chance in hell I'm getting a Puma 130.
The only difference I could find over mine was it made mine feel slow, and the clutch heavy. The tractibility of the Tdci was great, as was the new 6 speed box, but the new interior cramped the rear seating. Instead I am going to chuck $$$ at mine from Td5 Alive, and replace parts with upgrades over the next 12 months until the HP is up. Then I'll get a 110 Wagon.
CC
Me, I bought a Puma and wouldn't have bought a Defender if I had to buy an earlier model. I've driven a TD5 outback and whilst it is a very competent vehicle, it is not in the class of a Puma for comfort, power, air con, etc. I did come from Discos (6 of them).
If you wish to punish yourself :twisted: and drive around in an 80s model vehicle, go your hardest. If you wish to move with the times, don't hesitate and grade up into the smarter model.:cool:
Looks like you've got your answer with a test drive!
I've got a Puma and a TD5, and the Puma is by far the better vehicle to drive around. 6 speed box makes 110KM/h bearable. Engine has more power. Aircon actually works.
Still love my TD5 and not thinking of selling it at all, but it is a 'previous generation' vehicle now.
Think back to a parallel argument when the TD5 first came out, with people comparing it to a 300TDi..... Same same. Then there was the 200TDi compared to the 300TDi... and so it goes, on and on.....
Spudboy,:BigThumb:
This is not a thread for feelgood purchase justifications. The question was to decide whether to sell a well sorted, heavily accesorised work vehicle for the new model.
I have acknowledged the improvements in the Puma, but there are also some backward steps. It would cost me an extra $30k+ on the purchase price stright up to equal the fitout of my vehicle.
There are tax implications to consider as well. Everything I upgrade on mine is a replacement part so deductable, where on a new vehicle it wouldn't be. I think a Td5 putting out 200bhp will rectify the shortcommings I experienced. Plan a Hybrid turbo, Intercooler, turbo boost contoll box, full stainless exhaust, ceramic manifold and remap.
I originally chose a 130 as a touring vehicle as the smaller cab size helped the air-con. in my opinion the air works quite well, so is not a problem.
Engine noise will be adressed with body deadner. The back seat situation in the new 130 is unacceptable. I lose my box for the water bladder and the kids cannot do long stints in those seats. The lower hanging gearbox is also a problem in the Puma. I use mine hard and drag its belly already.
If you had of read properly, I haven't said I won't upgrade to a Puma, just not a 130. Once I have refitted mine out it will be a keeper, and then I will get a 110 wagon. But by then, it will most probably be more like a Range Rover Sport. Who is not keeping with the times now.
CC
I'm glad you kept the Sals equipped Td5 130. I agree they are better in a few important ways.
Puma 110 will be OK, and a 90 would be a hoot, although incrediby impractical...:D
Those performance Upgrades you mentioned will be a stunning improvement:cool:
JC
Not just a Sal, But a Maxi'd one to boot. It is my tow vehicle, and beleive me, I use all 4 ton available at times.
CC
Especially when we've all gotta eat! Go the field kitchen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Col.Coleman
Good call on keeping your 130 mate - nuts to do otherwise I reckon. And as you say, a new one will happen for you in a 110 form later. ;)
Maybe one consideration - the next Puma engine is rumored to be the 2.2.