Thread: How brand loyal are you?

At 20k, I'd jump in one.

Hmm...well...I am quite brand loyal...I own Land Rovers because they are Land Rovers and its with Land Rovers that many of my childhood memories are linked. I didn't even consider any other brands when buying my two.

But if I was after a vehicle, not to replace my Landies but perhaps as a work vehicle, or for when my Landies don't work (like now) they would certainly get an early look in at that price.

From Memory there were some of those Iranian ones in the town where my wifes family live in russia , very basic and tractor like Like a \Uaz/ Gaz jeep but possibily even more 'tinny" in build etc, was a while ago, Clean 32 may have seen these in russia
there was also a post from a Russian site on here the moderator has a Pazhan look at picture in Post 3 Link here: Message from Russian VSE4X4 club

I hope to visit their club next year while in russia and maybe see Lake Ladoga off road in St Petersburg and wll look out for those vechiles
http://www.ladoga-trophy.ru/

Massif and PS-10 have had a lot of trouble due to the engine, axle and transfer elements. Problem was so evident in the Santana that Iveco decided to took the production to Italy, but it seems there have been even more problems.... just repeatin what I have been reading in spanish sites.....

Besides, if you have one of these..... you are buying the replica of your dreamed car.... not enough fair for me........ I'd only like scottish whisky, anything else is not whisky, no matter how good it seems...

Originally Posted by carlosbeldia

Massif and PS-10 have had a lot of trouble due to the engine, axle and transfer elements. Problem was so evident in the Santana that Iveco decided to took the production to Italy, but it seems there have been even more problems.... just repeatin what I have been reading in spanish sites.....

yes heard Iveco has big problens from Italian contacts also, cars replacing turbos lots of problems

Had a good mate that had a land rover garage ( well still does) in the uk

They were Dealers for the Santana and only had it or a year and they gave it up because of the problems they had with the cars. Made land rovers build quality look very good

The only thing that worked on them was the engine the gearboxes were the worse bit. Had no end of problems with them

But in my mind they are like the range rover sport. Just shows you can't afford a real one. But the prices on Here make it look like it is half the price if a defender when in the uk the are only about $5 to $10 grand less than the defender


Ali

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Interesting comments on reliability.

The engine/gearbox in the Massif is different to the Santana, the Massif has the latest Euro IV 3.0 litre engine and six speed g/box (ZF ?) out of the Daily truck, the Santana is using an earlier (smaller/less powerful) version with a 5 speed ZF 'box.