Thread: Puma engine Problems

Originally Posted by Blknight.aus

the 2.25NA series Diesel. mines been in 4 so far... and in the last one it doesnt even run diesel, well mostly.

Agreed, but I was talking about a torquey and economical touring engine...

The 2.25 NA is a fantastic work engine, unable to be killed with a big stick, it just isn't very user friendly for touring, (although you DID manage the cape in one...)

JC

Actually pedro both the previous jeep wrangler/cherokee 4L(new model's have a 3.8L V6) and the current evernew(same bore alignment since the 60's was written somewhere) ford 4L 6cyl's are straight sixes.
The problem with the fords 6 was that they had an issue with losing bolts in the late 90's/ early 00's inside the head valve cover area and these did not do many favours for the valves etc. They also ran hotter in the early days than the 186 holden(best motor for the series II/III but shh dont mention the 202) as a replacement for the 2.1/4 landy engine in the series. some of the early alloy head foilcan sixes also had warping problems BUT the latest falcon 6's from around the intro of the XR6 turbo are proving to be far more durable if only they got their LPG system right And did not go the cheapest option

I don't wanna hijack the thread in any way, but when I raised the idea of a 4.0L I6 powertrain, I was not specifically talking of a Jeep XJ Cherokee. Although I have been extremely happy with it, and anyone venturing Jeep forums will be hard pressed to find threads about engine problems - there are plenty of threads however about CRDs, their probs, and maintenance issues.

I have run a 6cyl Falcon long distances from EL to the current models and they are built to last over long distances. Why else would cab companies run more Fords than Holdens in their fleets?

Granted, Chrysler abandoned the 4.0L Powertech I6 Engine in the recent incarnations of the Chekka and Wrangler, but the life cycle of these newer cars are unlikely to match the 4.0L I6 fitted XJ or TJ.

The Puma engine? It is clean, torquey, excellent for slow work etc, but it is not a long distance engine, and CRD support [and software support] in the middle of bugger all is basically a tow [after a longgggggggggggggg wait] to the nearest roadhouse, and then .... a table top truck ride back to the eastern seaboard. In fact, hang around long enough at a LR dealership and watch these table top trucks keep rolling in!

Not saying anything about the Landy itself, but the engine choice for transcontinental work in Southern Hemisphere or even the North American market. It applies to LR, Jeep, Toyota, ... the lot of them...

So how many go into the dealers with engine problems is what I actually want to know.

You are right you can watch the trucks roll in I have witnessed it myself BUT how do you know they have come in with engine problems is what puzzles me when you make that comment

That's a fair question Lou.

I haven't suffered the ignominy of a table top retrieval (except for the Disco once) I imagine that roadside assist isn't really equipped to do much other than diagnose and replace a flat battery. Therefore any other issue will result in a "transport of no delight".

Thats right Mahn and my car has been on the table top twice but it was for the immobiliser...that I dont consider to be an engine fault.

I know of someone that had a major diff failure again not an engine problem. even starter motors again not an engine problem.

other then the EGR for some people and the vaccum pump for others, oh and the very fist batch of puma engines (07's) with the stuck oil jet I dont know anyone that has actually had engine failure..and for those that have had major engine problems that I know of has been caused by fuel contamination due to bad breather location..

does that make it an unreliable engine? I'm not sure I dont think it does.

I add that my Disco's trip on a table top was as a result of an engine failure: the dreaded 300Tdi head gasket issue

-dullbird-

there has been a colpe throw rods/ cracked heads, and one that wanted to be a td5 so bad it droped all oil presser, injector pumps are now starting to leak we have found, and there is a new overlay harness for the turbo,