DIY oil change on a PUMA - Don't use just any old oil

Funny, fuel companies might disagree with that statement too...

I understand your reasoning after all what would Isuzurover or myself know about these engines, oil testing or reliability...

And please feel free to regale me of your knowledge of EGTs, SAE oil flow characteristics etc - I've been suffering insomnia for some time...

And remember 2 compliant oils can still have different chemical composition, just have to meet the criteria of the spec, anything else is outside that...

At the end of the day, I'm not overly concerned what you do with your vehicle.

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Originally Posted by isuzurover

That is a strawman argument.

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I dont think so.

This subject is loosing objectivity -Ill leave you to it.

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Originally Posted by Defender13

...But fuel in Oz is really bad and in comparison has quite a variation as well, ...

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Bulldust. This gets repeated frequently on here but is completely untrue.

Australian National Diesel Fuel Quality Standard (legally enforceable).
Fuel Quality in Australia - Diesel fuel quality standard

EN590 standard (Current EU Standard)
[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EN_590"]EN 590 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

The only significant difference is the EU permits up to 7% bio whereas Australia is 5% (for fuel labelled as diesel).

Variations between EU countries is MUCH greater than in Australia where only a few refineries supply all of our diesel. E.g. BP WA supplies all commercial pump diesel (sold by all brands of servo) in WA from Exmouth to Esperance.

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Originally Posted by isuzurover

Bulldust. This gets repeated frequently on here but is completely untrue.

Australian National Diesel Fuel Quality Standard (legally enforceable).
Fuel Quality in Australia - Diesel fuel quality standard

EN590 standard (Current EU Standard)
Video Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EN_590

The only significant difference is the EU permits up to 7% bio whereas Australia is 5% (for fuel labelled as diesel).

Variations between EU countries is MUCH greater than in Australia where only a few refineries supply all of our diesel. E.g. BP WA supplies all commercial pump diesel (sold by all brands of servo) in WA from Exmouth to Esperance.

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It's up to 10% not 5...

Most of the problems with au fuel is from the place its stored not what comes out of the refinery.

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Exactly as written above - it is irrelevant what comes out of a tap in refinery as that almost always complies with current standards; what counts is what is in a tank at some outback servo :D.

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Originally Posted by Blknight.aus

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Most of the problems with au fuel is from the place its stored not what comes out of the refinery.

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Hate to break it to you, but the whole world has that problem, not just AU.

IME fuel contaminated by dirt/water/microbes is rare.

Btw - WTF does that have to do with service intervals for oil changes. Fuel filter change intervals sure, but oil???

You guys who use criminally short oil change intervals are really clutching at straws for reasons now, and have left science behind a long time ago...

sheesh this thread is a dog.

back in the day, of gray and red motors. changing your oil often was a smart thing to do. and just about any thing that resembled an oil worked.


going back even further ( and i have build and run 8 of these "N")
the Gnome Monosoupape used Carstor oil becouse it didnt burn. but still a motor rebuild was every 10 hours.

back to the red Gray, change your oil every 10K KLM and you got 100 000 klm out of your bottom end, asuming a pistion didnt part or an oil ring cracked in the meen time. and that was good going.

today oil is more advanced or has become more advanced over the last 20 years than over the previouse 60 years. but there is still crap cheep oil out there. some of it in the same bottle ( almost)

todays quality oils can and do last over 100 ooo klms. oil testing is brilliant.

oil changes is just one way a car dealer can value add to a sale.

now i do not think over changing the oil will damage your puma. it will only damage your back pocket.

But if you have the $$$$ for that much oil then you can spend $38. at cav power ( SA ) and see what the real deal is.


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Ok, sorry to put up another post about Puma oil. This is doing my head in!!

Mine is almost at 10k km now and I want to change the oil and filters. I already have the filters but need to source the oil.

before I go and buy a 20l drum of the below, can anyone confirm its correct / usable / ideal! for a 2.2 non dpf puma.

Fuchs Lubricants (Australasia) Pty Ltd - Home

It is bloody confusing,wait until you want to change the G/box oil.....

Dunno about Fuchs,

but you can use this,available in 5L containers,Synpower FE.(not 2.4l Puma,only 2.2l)

MR auto use Valvoline in all the LR's they service.


Valvoline Australia - NetLube

Thanks Paul, I will have a look at that Synpower FE.