TC and Lockers?

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Originally Posted by slug_burner

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Most people either don't know the benefits of or don't have the money straight away to get lockers and get around to them later. If you want to fit them now go ahead, there is no technical reason why not. If you are certain you are going to use them then go for it. You can still learn to drive without the lockers turned on. Once you get stuck you can use the lockers to help you get out of trouble. I don't see any point in learning to drive without lockers and if you get stuck having to winch or snatch out of trouble. Some might say that it is good reinforcement but I don't think it is neccessary to go through all the pain of winch/snatch strap if you don't have to. Less risks involved with the use of lockers than using kenetic energy devices or winching.

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No one said winch or strap...

We said - Technical driving...

Very different :cool:

And if the locker etc won't engage you'll know how to pick lines!

And - no one said Don't Buy A Locker.

But rather find the limits stock and then upgrade!

go learn to drive in a rover without lockers TC or LSD of any kind, (and with leaf springs for the added man value) that will get you into picking your line and setting your tyre pressure.

your ABS and TC should only be relied upon to indicate to you that you are approaching the limit of the vehicles capability and either need to drive better or find another way.

Learning to rely on TC ABS HDC ACE and all the other acronyms is a recipe for disaster when you learn mid hill/corner that they have finite limits because when they shut down from a fault/overheat in mid corner, halfway on a massive hill you'll find that you're well outside the vehicles "natural" abilities.

roughly the ABS/TC pump is good for about 10 minutes worth of work. I have personally witnessed brake smoke coming out of the wheel centers of a puma pulling a trailer on sand trying to make it because the owner wouldn't get out and lower his tyre pressure.

as tombie pointed out once the lockers engaged TC/ABS wont spot the wheel speed difference so wont kick in. Be careful with it if you go for a torque biasing type limited slip diff, that can have interesting results when TC comes on

Well said Dave..


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Thank you all for your feedback.

I have been 4wding for many years, just not in any vehicles with all of the new fangled electronic assistance, hence my question, as I really had no experience with this type of equipment.

I totally agree about learning what to do and have been in the SES and driving many and varied vehicles over the last 14 years.

Again thanks to all.
You explained what TC does and that is what I was after.

I will probably go for ARB, as the added benefit of having an on board compressor to re-inflate my tyres.

cheers. :p

depending on how you define Better...

there are better options than the ARB locker and the ARB compressor.

I'd suggest you speak to rovertracks.

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Originally Posted by Tombie

No one said winch or strap...

We said - Technical driving...

Very different :cool:

And if the locker etc won't engage you'll know how to pick lines!

And - no one said Don't Buy A Locker.

But rather find the limits stock and then upgrade!

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Sorry to be crowding the front bar at the pub.

Learn Technical driving... is great advice. But you will occassionally get it wrong specially when you are learning, then that is where the winching/snatching might come into play. That is what I was getting at. :cool:

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Originally Posted by Slunnie

Ashcroft also seem like good lockers although there are not that many out there.

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more than you might think,

460 sold since March last year,

not one failure yet !!

Dave

And if there was an Ashcroft Sals locker, there'd be even more! ;)

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Originally Posted by isuzutoo-eh

And if there was an Ashcroft Sals locker, there'd be even more! ;)

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