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Thread: New Ashcroft Rover Differential? can anyone confirm

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    agreed, but half the confusion, derailing is coming from people referring to the P38 type diff as a Rover or Puma diff. So the topic just goes in circles with some answering with correct information based on questions asked about the wrong diff type etc....

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    Defender's 2007 to current use a p38 rear diff and a Rover front.

    For info direct from the Dave Ashcroft refer to the thread below, most will be explained -

    Life of Puma Rear Diff's

    PS : see how didn't call a "Puma" a "Puma"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drover View Post
    Defender's 2007 to current use a p38 rear diff and a Rover front.

    For info direct from the Dave Ashcroft refer to the thread below, most will be explained -

    Life of Puma Rear Diff's

    PS : see how didn't call a "Puma" a "Puma"
    I think you will find that is 2003, not 2007. And they are only found, in the defender range, on the 110 and 130. The 90's have Rover type front and rear. I had actually thought the P38 type rear diff appeared a little earlier than 2003 ON A FEW vehicles here in Oz......

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    In this instance, OP has a P38 rear diff in his 2003/4 110. It has currently worn flanges and halfshafts (surprise surprise) and we are currently looking at alternatives rather than replace axles etc on a diff that is basically useless.
    A Sals is on the cards but hard to obtain, a reworked stronger drop in to his original housing will be fine, OR maybe we should be fitting a D1/ Rover housing and an ARB or Detroit with Maxi axles??


    JC

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    JC, not sure how many you have done, but seems like you swap a few. Have you thought about contacting some one like Ruffstuff Specialties for a price on custom housings and chose a diff center you think best. Add LR 110 stub axles, hubs brakes etc. Im sure they could sort out offset and A frame ball joint fixture easy.

    I have emailed keith, when I hear from him I will forward the info to you. PM me your email if you like

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    As JC has said I have a P38 type diff. Sorry for any confusion.
    Cheers Bob.

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    Yep, 2003 is correct for P38 in the rear of 110's.

    I have a late 2006 110 with a P38 diff and it's now complete wih Ashcroft locker

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    With the huge numbers of rover ABS diffs from D1's that are worth nothing to buy and having HD internals straight off the shelf from many suppliers I think that would be the better way to go for 99% of people here. Pat

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    I have been summoned..
    Hi Guys, it's been a while, just haven't had time to get out to the forums much recently, very busy.
    Serg suggested I come over and describe some solutions there might be for the brilliant P38 Diff in the back of the later 110's.
    Unfortunately there is only one drop in solution and that's the Force 9 in a D1 housing thats a lot of money and really geared for competition use, ratios that are usable might be a pain to get if you plan on keeping 3.54's (Dave could speak to that better than me)
    A couple years back I worked with Dynatrac in California to build a "super Salisbury" for MOD in the UK Based on a Dana 60 we supplied it with an ARB, 4.1 gears, giant 35 spline axles on custom stubs and hubs. It's a beast, some of you guys might have my 35 spline conversion on their Sali, it's based on that. The housing is available and could be built as a 24 spline axle using some of the components ffrom the P38 axle, I'd have to check on a current price. My guess is tha it might be cheaper to import a Salisbury from teh UK and build it to current specification.
    The Dana 44 could fit as a drop in, we looked at that many years ago, in development we decided to use 12 bolt GM gears, we made one casting and decided the Toy conversion was a better deal.
    The Dana 44 came as a drop in for Corvettes and Shelby Cobra's. The ones I've seen are aluminum housings, there might be something new out there These days I just haven't looked.
    A guy could also drop a D1 housing in it and put a Hilux diff in it but I don't think I've ever seen a 3.5ish ratio in a Hilux.

    That's what I got, not a lot of good news I'm afraid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justinc View Post
    Comes in 3.54:1 too

    Stocker D30 were only 2 pin, at least the ones in J**ps are...are the D44 4 Pin Simon?

    JC
    Good question JC, I'm not sure! They would be after fitting a locker though.

    Quote Originally Posted by uninformed View Post
    Slunnie, Im not sure if you know already, but keith from Rovingtracks has done this already. He was contracted by the UK Mil to do some HD complete axle set ups. From my memory he used specaial made 44 housings for the front. The UK took order of his rears, but ran out of money for his front design. Ill see If I can chase up more info for you.
    Thanks for this, I had no idea about that

    Quote Originally Posted by revor View Post
    I have been summoned..
    Hi Guys, it's been a while, just haven't had time to get out to the forums much recently, very busy.
    Serg suggested I come over and describe some solutions there might be for the brilliant P38 Diff in the back of the later 110's.
    Unfortunately there is only one drop in solution and that's the Force 9 in a D1 housing thats a lot of money and really geared for competition use, ratios that are usable might be a pain to get if you plan on keeping 3.54's (Dave could speak to that better than me)
    A couple years back I worked with Dynatrac in California to build a "super Salisbury" for MOD in the UK Based on a Dana 60 we supplied it with an ARB, 4.1 gears, giant 35 spline axles on custom stubs and hubs. It's a beast, some of you guys might have my 35 spline conversion on their Sali, it's based on that. The housing is available and could be built as a 24 spline axle using some of the components ffrom the P38 axle, I'd have to check on a current price. My guess is tha it might be cheaper to import a Salisbury from teh UK and build it to current specification.
    The Dana 44 could fit as a drop in, we looked at that many years ago, in development we decided to use 12 bolt GM gears, we made one casting and decided the Toy conversion was a better deal.
    The Dana 44 came as a drop in for Corvettes and Shelby Cobra's. The ones I've seen are aluminum housings, there might be something new out there These days I just haven't looked.
    A guy could also drop a D1 housing in it and put a Hilux diff in it but I don't think I've ever seen a 3.5ish ratio in a Hilux.

    That's what I got, not a lot of good news I'm afraid.
    Thanks Keith, that awesome - some really interesting info!
    Cheers
    Slunnie


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