Going on the video posted above I would like to see ANY non Land Rover showroom standard 4wd drive through the obstical at the 2 minute 10 sec mark,anyone who thinks TC doesn't work might like to take a look.A standard Defender with two wheels unloaded and she doesn't miss a beat,and to think the TDCi is better again,but hey,all that electdickery is evil I tell's ya,evil. Pat

