Defender Rear Axle/Hub Identification

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Originally Posted by DeanoH

When I bought my 130 the previous owner told me it had 'upgraded' rear axles, but was unsure of the type or specification.

They look like this.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...012/11/661.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...013/11/504.jpg

The axles are 30mm in diameter for their entire length with a 1mm raised seal section near the flange end.

Does the info stamped on the flange and axle give any indication as to the manafacturer or quality of the axle flange combo. I assume 08 08 is 710 language for 80 80 steel :D. But HTE 859 X I've got no idea. :confused:

Deano :)

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The "X" after HTE 859 designates that the drive flange has 10mm longer splines than the standard HTE 859. This should be mated with an axle with similar "X" designation and 10mm longer splines. These are designed to prolong the life of the axle to drive flange connection. This is the concept of the "Maxi" axle and should work well if greased regularly. Similar result can be achieved with the shorter HTE 859 drive flange and normal length axle and splines, if converted to oil bath lubrication by removal of the axle to differential oil seal. HTE specify that the HTE 859X can only be used with axles where the part number ends with an "x". It could be that you only have half of the conversion, and may need to seek advice from HTE.

I'm pretty sure mine has the number under the flange nut

Looking at the pic of the axle, going by colour, stamped numbers and machin marks, Id bet its a Hi-Tough axle.....

I've woken up this slumbering thread because it is on the track where I'm looking for info.

The situation: I wish to fit disk brakes to the rear of my 91 Defender 6X6 (narrow wheel bearing spacings), changing from drums to disks using Disco 1 hubs will narrow the track, so I have swapped the stub axles to later stubs that space the disco hubs to the correct track but still leaving the original halfshafts with the correct protrusion from the stub axle.

The problem: while the axle halfshaft is in the correct alignment to the stub axle the original drum Defender drive flange is too long (none of the halfshaft is protruding so I can't get the circlip on without withdrawing it about 10mm).
I have borrowed an HTE 859 drive flange and (with no gasket between the flange and hub) there is 3.1mm between the circlip groove and the face of the HTE 859.

The question: Is there another HTE flange that is slightly longer(thicker) that will take up the 3mm?

Can you use a shim under the flange?

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Originally Posted by slug_burner

Can you use a shim under the flange?

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I could, but I know that there are multiple HTE flanges including the 859 and 859X just wondering if there may be one a little closer to my needs.

I could call Barry on Monday, but thought someone out there may know before then.

So no one even knows the actual difference between HTE 859 and HTE 859X flanges? :BigCry:

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Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

So no one even knows the actual difference between HTE 859 and HTE 859X flanges? :BigCry:

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10mm more spline on the X

This is the instructions that came with my axles last week. It explains what the numbers mean well.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...15/02/1039.jpg

Have just come off a long conversation with Barry W, the long and the short of it (excuse the pun) is that the HTE-859 is the replacement flange for Defender etc with 25mm spline inside the flange, the HTE-859X has 35mm spline to be used with the Maxidrive/Hi-Tough X axles.

The original 110/County and my Drum braked Defender FRC5806 flanges had 30mm spline but were much taller.

The solution we have come up with is to get the HTE-859X drive flanges, machine out 5mm of spline from the end leaving sufficient clearance for the circlip. Then machine an additional 5mm of thread on the outside so the cap takes up the lost space at the end of the axle.

Sounds simple doesn't it! :o

The HTE-859X flanges will be on the way this week. :)

Thanks everyone. :BigThumb: