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You're dead right! A basic answer to a basic Q! just what I needed! I confirmed this with "Ironman Springs" and bought 'em!
2. ?PAX? read p a s s e n g e r s !
3.Re your final statement:- measure twice, cut once! and it cost me nothing to ASK..Many thanks
what rate are your new "ironman springs" ?
I hope it works out for you. :)
Alot find the LL to be a peice of junk, when in fact it is a pretty smart bit of kit that has been incorperated into some very basic but clever rear end set up(link type and geometry) on the rear of Landrovers. The only negative I have heard on these is for overweighted (maybe yours) 110's and them bending and pulling the axle tubes. This wasnt such a deal on the RangeRovers as they generally didnt have that much extra weight shoved in them, and their fabricated housings can stand a little more abuse than the 110 housing + press tubes....
I still find it hard to fathom,that all the responses,and no one mentioned the first and most basic thing to do:eek:Go and have both end of the vehicle weighed with the normally carried weight on board,and then calculate the required spring rates for each corner.Each vehicle is different and individual,and people need to take all the guess work out of things,and do things properly the first time,it saves a lot of heart ache and not to mention back ache and cash.
agreed Wayne, thats why I was trying to get across the idea of some base lines....
btw, here on the GC, its not that easy to find a weigh bridge that will tell you the weights :mad:....my local tip has a "public" weigh bridge...they REFUSE to tell me my weights. I think someone may have come up with the idea of them being responsable for something somehow....FDH's!!!!
Just out of interest, I have removed the dead ride leveller from my '85110, and fitted genuine LR rear defender coils, (red/green stripe, approx 330lb) with Decarbon shocks. Rear is perfect when towing, but with an empty fuel tank and no camper trailer on it is IMO a bit harsh still. Have LRA Orange coils in front, (similar rate and lengths to NRC9448/NRC9449 130 Defender H'duty front), with Decarbon Shocks.
The front springs and shocks are now 11 years old, and since fitting it all from the RRC to the 110 and adding a winch etc it is time to uprate the front springs to County Isuzu spec coils. They have dropped 25mm and I have less than 70mm bump stop clearance now. Still very happy with their lifespan, LRA make great springs!!
JC
this is the thing, aside from the good bad quality, which most springs by dobson king etc are good quality, it is 100% personal feel that is the deciding factor.
I have 250lb in my 110cc short alloy tray, and would like to go lower. I have 210lb in the front. Koni's front and rear. I use to have a stock 81 RRC....I would love to be back to that ride.
Im thinking of going down to 180lb in the front and not sure in the rear. I do have a 110 LL to fit if I decide I want to.
Yep,public weighbridges here are not very obliging either.
Long soft springs are beautiful in a touring oriented vehicle,but can be a little precarious in some hard core situations.
can you expand more on this?Quote:
Originally Posted by LowRanger
Sooo, I am weighing my defender and camper trailer this weekend. Interested in how I work out the spring rates once I have the front and rear axle weights and the tow ball weight.Quote:
Originally Posted by LowRanger
Is it a formula?
Or is it a sliding scale type thing using a chart?
Other than putting poly airs back in I'm not certain it's straight forward working off axle weights.