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I have the safe. I was not after moving the ECU so additional height was not an issue. What I like about the safe is it sits low. I have used mine to set up an additional fuse box and storage. I did not go down the path of attaching directly to the lid. I modified the cubby box to have a gap of about 50mm so I can unlock and also slide other items underneath.
I am mor than happy with it.
I have the safe, as it's a bit more discreet. Friends with 300Tdi & PUMA Defenders have the X-Box, so I can compare them a little.
The X-Box has more volume and raises the cubby more. The Safe is recessed, discreet and secure.
I've relocated the A/C electrics into the safe, as well as an auxillary fusebox, and still have room for storage. Because it's closer to the gearbox, the safe does absorb more heat, and I've insulated mine inside and out, otherwise you might be limited in what you can store there.
In mounting the safe I removed the two wooden runners under it, and screwed the lid to the base of the cubby, hence the rise of elbow height is marginal.
I'd be interested in some details of the A/C electrics move. Why the move? Where exactly did you move them to? Are you talking about just the a/c on/off push-button from the centre dash? Photo's of the move?Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael2
Good point about the heat in the safe. Don't leave a bar of chocolate in there, that's for sure!
Possibly the t/c (abs) electrics I suspect.
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I have the Frontrunner safe, as the X-box is not available in South Africa, as far as I know. It's come in handy, but I wish I could have gotten the X-box instead. I got stuck in a river in Zimbabwe. The water level was high enough that it entered the seat box and wet the ABS electronics, which subsequently blew. Cost to repair (for my insurer's account fortunately) was in the region of $8,000. If I had had the X-box, the electrics would have been just out of the way. The extra storage created under the driver's seat is an added bonus.
I have mulgo Xbox but just for storage. Not too worried about moving electrics but silastic seal under seat is good idea. Just use heat resistant/ high temp stuff. Think about long term putting electrics in even hotter location ... Hmmm.
Comment about drink holder location higher & getting in the way is true but not a problem if use passenger side holder.(keep in mind it is a pain even without the safe or Xbox - so not really a deal breaker for either choice) I actually like the extra height as an armrest it works like the open-window armrest system defender owners know well!
I'm glad yours did. Mine has four unexplained holes, no grommets and no instructions. Emailed and asked for some (instructions) and never got an answer...or any instructions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drover
I know they are like the holy grail on here, but IMO it's an expensive little metal box, at least for a 300TDi, where I guess it's main purpose (relocating ECU etc) isn't relevant.
Might grow on me if I could only work out what the holes are for... Will have to put grommets on the shopping list to fill them in.
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Originally Posted by steane
And see the downloadable instructions on this page.
Yeah, I checked there at the time but no instructions for the 300TDi. I pointed this out in my email asking for instructions. Maybe it's assumed that there isn't much to it with the 300TDi, but for the money I'd have liked some instructions that gave me a clue as to what the pre-drilled holes were for and some fitting/wiring tips. I haven't moved any of the standard wiring, but some 300TDi owners might want to.Quote:
Originally Posted by krispe
Wow you really don't have to go deep to get water into the seatbox. If water in the seatbox can cause $8000 worth of damage then anyone with a gizmogadget landrover must be moving the electrics when adding a raised air intake - i hope !Quote:
Originally Posted by robharvey
I don't understand why land rover didn't encase the ecu's and other important bits in something waterproof.. how hard would that be!?
I have a tdi so no worries, but it has an alarm system that could drown so I put the control unit in a good tupperware box, drilled a series of holes for the wires to exit and sealed each wire in with silicone.. I can fully submerge it and not a drop will get it! Probably not so easy with the td5/puma ecu's?