Do I need Lockers?

I agree with a number of the points above. Although you may not "need" lockers to go up the Cape. You will certainly protect the tracks and your drive line (if used sensibly) having lockers.

We 4wders as a community claim to "tread lightly" but then go ahead and tear up tracks because we won't accept defeat. I have seen it quite a number of times very recently and it has left me with some sour thoughts towards a couple of particular groups.

If you have the money to spend on lockers, they are an easy thing to justify in my opinion. If I had the cash, I would be buying a set as we speak!

Chris

You also need to ask yourself about what aspects of your warranty will be essentially voided by fitting lockers. It would be a very expensive exercise fitting lockers (which you don't need) if you did your gearbox in on the Cape. Proving that the lockers did not significantly contribute to the failure of the box would be very difficult. Not for me!

Cheers
KarlB
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Originally Posted by Slunnie

Personally, I think Cape York is an excellent excuse to get lockers. Carpe diem :D

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This was my original excuse :)

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Originally Posted by gavinwibrow

Got a birthday coming up?

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Funnily enough at the end of the Month :)

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Originally Posted by KarlB

You also need to ask yourself about what aspects of your warranty will be essentially voided by fitting lockers. It would be a very expensive exercise fitting lockers (which you don't need) if you did your gearbox in on the Cape. Proving that the lockers did not significantly contribute to the failure of the box would be very difficult. Not for me!
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Well as we speak it is in now getting a new seal fitted under warranty on the rear diff, there was oil all over the garage floor :(

I think for this trip I will leave well enough alone and stick with what Landrover gave me. We will see what more trips send me if I feel I need lockers or not in the future

Thanks for all the input

G

The reason I chose not to get lockers at this stage were (at least in a D2) it would mean I'd have to look into stronger axles, cv joints, etc.
That and I'd rather become a more proficient driver without them, and then once I'm ready to start climbing up the side of mountains, and situations where lockers are required then I've already got all the basic level driving techniques down pat :)

No, you dont NEED Lockers, as Muppet said you will need to but heavy duty axles , CV's etc
Yes a Landy can go most places without them

BUT, If you plan on keeping your Defender Long Term, I suggest TrueTracs

They make things much easier on your drivetrain, and make life easy for your axles / CV's & Traction Control works so much better. No bang & clatter.

you only NEED lockers, for picking the kids up from school, and Coles carpark.

You NEED lockers. ;) :D

Then you can go to places to get away from all of the 4WDers. :cool:

Almost nobody gets lockers and then pulls them out again.

Oh, and I know you want them!

I agree with the others here insomuch that the defender traction control system is brilliant... the best out there imho.

Having just come back from 2 months up the cape I would say they are not needed, but having said that. I have F&R lockers on my 2010 110 defender for a number of reasons.

1 traction control works when you break traction and it tries to regain traction - sometimes when its lost its lost.

2 lockers are easier on your car and the tracks, no shock loading, less wheel spin and permits you to drive up a hill at 1500 RPM in 1st low rather than race up at 3500 RPM in 3rd low just to get over a hard spot (assuming you have to get up to get home and not just there posing)

3 Going down Hill - traction control does not work going downhill. With only a CDL engaged, if you loose traction on 1 front and 1 rear wheel then gravity is in charge unless you hit the loud pedal and try and regain some traction. (takes some guts but does work). Having only 2 wheels holding you going down hill and then loose 1 its only about 0.26 seconds later till the last one lets go as well.

Mine with F&R lockers as well as CDL I can just let engine breaking take me down knowing that I only need 1 wheel to hold me.

Should you upgrade all the other bits as well.... I did but im lucky that I can afford it, but you don't have too.

I would keep away from auto lockers as they come in automatically.... maybe when you don't want them too like on the black top, on a corner, in the wet driving maybe a little too fast.....

Get a set of ARB or E locker for the rear at least. Just flicking the switch when you see a gnarly bit ahead of you makes you rest a little more comfortable in the seat - like going through Nolans Brook.... My car did it easily towing a camper but F&R locked. A rodeo coming thorough 20 mins after with no trailer drowned - similar line.... was it lack of lockers??? lack of skill? just bad luck???? who knows... I'm hi and dry and he had an insurance claim.....

My 2c.....

Hi! Before Melrose, I'd have said 'Lockers' all day long, but having watched a demo of a G4 110 with traction control going through a cross axle tester I' have to also say no, you don't need lockers. The traction control was very impressive to watch. My 99 Defer 130 on the other hand has just had the Truetrac, Detroit and HiTough axle treatment so I can go places you can with TC! Good luck with your trip!!:)

Don't bother getting lockers

You will break more stuff on the car. Mainly the half shafts

All you need is a winch and ground anchor and that will get you out of trouble.

But the idea when touring is to drive around an problem and not risk the car and drive through it unless you absolutely have to.