Thread: Defender Puma 2.2 - voice your issues

Originally Posted by tact

From the 2.2l TDCi Land Rover workshop manual:

Engine - ID4 2.2L Diesel -
Lubricants, Fluids and Sealers
Item Specification
SAE 5W-30 engine oil (With DPF)5W/30 - WSS-M2C934-B
SAE 5W-30 engine oil (Without DPF)5W/30 - WSS-M2C913-B or C

A bit more infor from:
Ford Oil Specifications - oilspecifications.org

Ford WSS-M2C913-B
The Ford M2C913-B specification is released in Europe for initial fill engine oils used for lubrication of spark ignition engines using gasoline and for compression ignition engines using diesel fuels. The specification is also used to define engine oils for servicing Ford engines where applicable. The oil shall meet all the requirements of the ILSAC GF-2 and GF-3 specification, the ACEA A1-98 and B1-98 specification and additional Ford requirements.
Ford WSS-M2C913-C
Fully backwards compatible and is strongly recommended for all applications that currently require the specification Ford M2C913-B. The new engine oil provides various benefits to the customer such as improved fuel economy benefits and high robustness to biodiesel fuels.
Ford WSS-M2C913-D
Introduced in 2012, oils meeting this specification are recommended for all Ford diesel engines except Ford Ka TDCi models manufactured before 2009 and Ford Galaxy 1.9 TDi models manufactured between 2000 and 2006. A product meeting this specification is especially recommended for diesel engines where M2C913-B or M2C913-C oils were initially required. An oil meeting this specification must be used in Ford Transit vehicles manufactured from 2012 onward with Duratorq 2.2 engine. Oils meeting this specification can be used with extended oil change intervals and are also suitable to be used in engines running on biodiesel or high sulfur diesel.

So B is now D spec

Ford WSS-M2C934-A
Extended drain engine oil for vehicles equipped with diesel particulate filter (DPF).

And what Astral, for whatever reason used in my 2015 Defender



End of day all good oils.

I wouldn't worry too much Andy. Just keep all documentation that shows what oil spec they used.

I let the dealer worry about it, i just get in and drive

Originally Posted by AndyG

I let the dealer worry about it, i just get in and drive

With respect Andy, how close do you live to your dealer? Mine's a 1200km round trip.

Originally Posted by MrLandy

With respect Andy, how close do you live to your dealer? Mine's a 1200km round trip.

Wow.........I didnt think Victoria was that big

Incidently its about 3 hours to my closest dealer

Cheers

My car lives in BNE, i live in PNG
My holidays are short and busy, so the car is serviced while i am off shore.

I don't particularly agree with the oil the Dealer uses, Edge Professional C1, which is a DPF Oil, but i'm not going to worry about it.

Originally Posted by AndyG

My car lives in BNE, i live in PNG
My holidays are short and busy, so the car is serviced while i am off shore.

I don't particularly agree with the oil the Dealer uses, Edge Professional C1, which is a DPF Oil, but i'm not going to worry about it.

Cool. So even when serviced by a dealer they use the 'wrong' oil. I'm sure as long as it's SAE 5W-30 it's totally fine too. Guess that's my point.

Problem / Question is getting to a service agent around every 10,000km, or getting pinged for using different oil from the dealer if one does any oil changes oneself, even if it meets spec.

Originally Posted by MrLandy

Cool. So even when serviced by a dealer they use the 'wrong' oil. I'm sure as long as it's SAE 5W-30 it's totally fine too. Guess that's my point.

Problem / Question is getting to a service agent around every 10,000km, or getting pinged for using different oil from the dealer if one does any oil changes oneself, even if it meets spec.

The oils that exceed the stated spec (and are backwards compatible) will be fine. Not really "wrong" oils. They just cost more.