Positive Votes for 2.2 Puma's

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Originally Posted by juddy

Will the ARB diff lock's invalidate your warranty?

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According to the dealer I bought my landie from at Southern Landrover, it will void your warranty.

Talked to my Landrover dealer today, and they explained that it would void warranty on any damage directly/indirectly caused by the installation.

For example if a CV or driveshaft were damaged due to the terrain and a locked diff, then it would not be repaired under warranty!

There could be some very grey areas under this policy, but the value of the diff lock/s is probably more than having to wait three years for warranty to run out!

The TCS system has its place, and works very well with soft undulating mounds where the lifted wheel gently spins and the TCS system kicks in.

What doesn't seem right is when tracking up a snotty rocky slope, and having intermittent traction, but not enough loss to wake to TCS system up, then having to spin the wheel more so that rocks are thrown everywhere and the driveline takes working much harder, and then the TCS comes to life!

Pitty, the Landrover doesn't come with mechanical/air lockers as standard.

However I'll fix that myself and just to say that I have been so far very impressed with the new Defender. The anti stall system works a treat, and the ABS system also changes a lot. I really like the newer dashboard, but still find the character and the Defender still very much alive.

My MY13 90 is going on 4000k's and has been brilliant.

Only gripe has been the side intake grill fell off at about 1600km's and one of the rear seats won't fold away.

this video show me that the car with traction control does more damage to the track than the locked vehicle.....

BTW what class are you........43rd Fitter

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Originally Posted by ozrob

I will respond to this question as my first post on the ARLO forum,
I have TCS on my Suzuki Grand Vitara and it is fantastic off road, (too small though...will be buying a 110 Puma shortly)
So how does it work,
Basically to have wheel spin = no grip so what the TCS does is use the ABS ring segments and counts the rotational speed of the wheel, if one wheel is turning faster than the other wheel on the same axle it assumes that the wheel is spinning, then it sends a signal to the ABS modulator for that brake circuit and applies the brake enough to stop the wheel spin, thus all the power on the axle is transferred to the wheel that is not spinning ( which happens to have the most grip).
Also the engine timing gets retarded to reduce power to the spinning wheels (with the suzuki TCS)
Works great on firm surfaces....black soil mud is a issue where none of the wheels can get grip....you will find that the engine will rev up and down constantly, the trick here is to disconnect one of the ABS sensors so the TCS is Off...so you get full wheel spin....
I have owned a Diahatsu Feroza and a 2.8 Hilux, neither of them were able to to perform off road as good as my GV3 with TCS.

have a look at this Youtube link, it is a good example of TCS V'S locked diffs
Land Rover 110 vs Toyota Land Cruiser 70-SW Pt2. - YouTube

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Puma models are great cars. I only ever see them at work for servicing and problems. I've worked on them in the uk and over here and they still get my vote as a great vehicle.
BUT every vehicle has a purpose. It seems most complaints in regards to them is gear changes and backlash. This is all down to the type of vehicle it is. If you want smooth stuff buy a disco. If you want a bit more raw buy a defender.
Simples :D