The Engine Question

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Originally Posted by Ancient Mariner

Real diesels no lectricty:p

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not a valid argument,
electronics are far more reliable than machines,

be interested to know if anyone fitted with a pacemaker won't touch anything with an ECU because of 'electricery'

My guess is people that shy away from Td5, dont fly, dont drive a car built after 1980, dont use a phone, dont watch TV, dont use a computer ,

in that case suprising how many of them are on here.

I used to work for Telstra, Telecom exchanges used to be electro mechanical , now they are all electronic, They used to be staffed by a dozen or more people each, now they are ALL unmanned, only have occasional visits by contractors now to service their dinosaur mechanical backup generators,

just amuses me when the best and most reliable engines are bypassed because of mis-understanding

Sorry but its not misunderstanding, its being able to repair or at least have a go at repairing your engine without the need to drag it to the main stealers!!
300 Tdi for me any day of the week!

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Originally Posted by ted44

Sorry but its not misunderstanding, its being able to repair or at least have a go at repairing your engine without the need to drag it to the main stealers!!
300 Tdi for me any day of the week!

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I think the TD5 is a prefect example of how false this is.

How many times is a TD5 ECU replaced VS how many times is a mechanical part replaced?

If I had a 200TDI 110 and was engine swapping, my dilema would be TD5 vs 4BD1T. They are both different beasts, but great engines and can be tweaked to suit. The rest are second rate in comparison.

Of course, with the question not including a TD5, my answer is still 4BD1T.

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Originally Posted by ted44

Sorry but its not misunderstanding, its being able to repair or at least have a go at repairing your engine without the need to drag it to the main stealers!!
300 Tdi for me any day of the week!

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as per Judo, this demonstrates that it is indeed misunderstanding.

The Td5 is more reliable and easier to repair trackside than any other engine I know of. There is not a single thing that a dealer could do on it that any other person that understands it could.

on the other hand Ive had a Timing belt / cam seizure on a so called legendary reliable engine that destroyed the engine, in the middle of nowhere. I understood that engine too, but that didnt help.

in the auspices of the question I too would pick the Isuzu, (hint, it dosent have a timing belt)

When I was planning out my 110 it was Td5 Vs 4bd1(t).

Initially my decision was Td5. The plan was to get one and then 'freshen it up'. It started talking to people but was scared off by the cost. Td5 engine parts are significantly more expensive than Isuzu parts (and I was happy to run a 4BD1 without touching it internally).

There is no doubt that the td5 is smoother engine that is easier to live with but I really hope that the parts costs have come down a lot more (I was looking 8-9 years ago).

Buy an Isuzu truck, use the motor and gearbox, then adapt it to one of the grubbs kits. Done! You see/here of a lot more damaged/broken 300tdi/td5's than you do 4bd1's.:)

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Originally Posted by Vern

Buy an Isuzu truck, use the motor and gearbox, then adapt it to one of the grubbs kits. Done! You see/here of a lot more damaged/broken 300tdi/td5's than you do 4bd1's.:)

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makes the most sense.

except I'd be buying a Isuzu 4x4 truck & build a camper on the back.. job done.

If only I could convince the boss of this. I really did like that duramax powered oka in another thread:)

My order of preference would be:

4BD1T
TD5
200tdi
300tdi

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Originally Posted by isuzurover

My order of preference would be:

4BD1T
TD5
200tdi
300tdi

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200TDI would be preferred over a 300TDI?? I see others on here commenting the same thing, but why?!